Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Is everyone here to bash Skycatchers?

Buellst,

I'm 73.5"
I used to be 74.5", but a hanggliding accident back in '82 crushed a couple of my
vertebra, leaving me a full inch shorter.

At the software contract jobs that I go to, I'm usually the short guy.

R. Williams

---------- Original Message -----------
From: Buellst <buells2t@gmail.com>
To: "Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com" <Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 18:24:22 -0700
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Is everyone here to bash Skycatchers?

> Wow you hang with some tall pilots.
>
> Most I know are over 170lbs but not over 6ft
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Mike
>
> www.danielsperformance.com
> www.danielsperformance.com/backroad
>
> On Aug 7, 2010, at 6:08 PM, george_rf <george_rf1@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > you have a problem with weight and also with math
> >
> > Disclaimer ; opinions of others will vary depending on what [UTF-8?]they’re
selling
> >
> > This is my website
> > http://curedcomposites.netfirms.com/index.html
> > Look all you want but don't touch
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 8/7/10, Richard Williams <rkwill@lewiscounty.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Richard Williams <rkwill@lewiscounty.com>
> > Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Is everyone here to bash Skycatchers?
> > To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 8:09 PM
> >
> >
> > Michael,
> >
> > Cessna claims that delivery was to begin in mid 2009.
> > Now, your saying it will be another 2 years and this is 2010.
> >
> > This is beginning to sound like the Boeing 787 Dreamliner.
> >
> > Anyway, 490 total payload.
> > 24 gal fuel.
> > (24*6=144)
> > 490-144=346 for passengers..
> > I'm 300 in my birthday suit.
> > so 146 for a co-pilot/instructor.
> > Hummmmm
> > I'm not sure of any instructors who are that light.
> > (Now, a nice lady co-pilot would be real nice.)
> >
> > Of course, unless that co-pilot is an instructor, I'll never be owning/flying a
> > skycatcher.
> >
> > I did crawl into a fixed wing sport pilot plane a while back.
> > I do mean crawl, there was not even enough room to turn around.
> > also, most of my legs were still outside when I ran out of room, up against the
> > opposite door.
> >
> > The mock-ups of the skycatcher that I have seen are even smaller.
> >
> > I guess Cessna has not yet caught on to the fact that most of todays' pilots are 6'
or
> > taller and well over the (official FAA) 170 pounds.
> >
> > To tell the truth, I feel sorry for the flight schools that have been duped into
> > purchasing the skycatcher as a dual instruction trainer.
> >
> > Incidently, I might wonder about the suitability of the skycatcher as a training
plane,
> > as there seems to be a VERY serious problem with performing stalls.
> > (severe to the point of having to throw the 'chute after a stall)
> >
> > R. Williams
> >
> > ---------- Original Message -----------
> > From: Michael Luttrell <travlin22002@yahoo.com>
> > To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 07:04:26 -0700 (PDT)
> > Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Is everyone here to bash Skycatchers?
> >
> > > Maybe I'm off base, but it seems to me that ALL of you are here
> > > primarily to bash Cessna and Skycatchers! I just galloped through 6
> > > months of messages, and could not find one positive comment. I joined
> > > this list because I actually have a 162 on order; anybody else? As
> > > you are surely aware, delivery has been delayed a year, and
> > > projections are for another year. It's OK; I want them to get it
> > > right; not rush it out the door. It may not be the best, and for the
> > > past 3 years, I've been at Oshkosh and Sun-n-Fun looking at other LSAs,
> > > and indeed, there are competitors of interest. I'm considering my options.
> > > You all seem to bash the fact that most of the plane is manufactured
> > > in China and whimper about jobs going overseas. I just returned from 3
> > > weeks in China, including visiting the China Aviation Pavilion at
> > > World Expo Shanghai. Get your heads out of the sand. China is rapidly
> > > on it's way to becoming a world force in aviation and has all the
> > > potential to leave Boeing and Airbus in the dust. And not because they
> > > are cheap; but because they are pros at manufacturing and increasingly
> > > at design engineering. China is already the world leader in production
> > > of energy products like wind generators, photovoltaics, thermal solar,
> > > hydroelectric, bridges, as well as computers, cities and buildings.
> > > They have 80 (!!!) high speed rail lines under construction right now.
> > > Go see for yourself, or read James Fallows in The Atlantic or his
> > > books. We sit around and bemoan our financial collapse and loss of
> > > jobs, all self-inflicted, while China races ahead at a growth rate of
> > > 10%/year -sustained. The Chinese study and work harder than any
> > > culture, and the investment will pay off, big time. Most SLAs come
> > > from Europe (east and west), including Russia and the Ukraine. Why no
> > > complaints here about jobs going there? Why only bash jobs going to China?
> > > Cessna is an American company (at least so far). There are only a few
> > > US companies trying to enter and compete in the LSA market. Given the
> > > realities of production, they only way they can compete is to
> > > manufacture abroad; US production with high labor costs and runaway
> > > benefits and labor laws cannot possibly provide competitive products
> > > and pricing. Like it or not, that's the reality. Get used to it. The
> > > reason I ordered a Cessna Skycatcher are many, not the least of which
> > > is that it's still an US company, a venerable American tradition with
> > > heritage planes that many of you still fly and are bonded with, and I
> > > want to see Cessna survive. It's in America's interest. All of you,
> > > it seems, just hang out here to bash Cessna and the Skycatcher. You
> > > should be ashamed to have forgotten your mothers advice: "If you can't
> > > find something nice to say, just be quiet". I'm all for criticism in
> > > context (I just used it on you!), but you all are way overboard. Get a
> > > life. Find something nice to say instead of just bashing. Michael
> > ------- End of Original Message -------
> >
> >
> >
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