Monday, October 11, 2010

Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Non Radio users

Bill,
I totally agree. And I'd go a lot further. I'd restrict those damn Pipers and Cessnas from using any airport in the mornings and evenings when I want to fly the pattern in my Ultralight. And don't get me started on fast twins or light jets. They should have to build their own airports. And it's good to know that I can identify those pilots who will cut me off in the pattern, just by listening to see if they have a radio.
...............actually, you are only one electrical or electronic failure away from being a non radio aircraft yourself. How about flying that way? Without a radio, your situational awareness has to be at a much higher level. Instead of just announcing and then barging along, assuming you've got the middle lane, try flying as if no one heard you. Even if you hear other pilots announcing, try flying as if you didn't hear them. I've been in situations where what I thought was a plane announcing in the pattern for my field was actually for another more distant field. We all depend on each other to fly safe. That includes looking out for all the idiosyncrasies of each others aircraft. It's no worse being a slow aircraft than a fast one. No worse being a non radio aircraft, than being one with a glass cockpit. Each has it's own set of capabilities that us other pilots need to accommodate.

Bill

--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hobson" <wrhobson@...> wrote:
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> Personally I have a lot more issues with the guys without radios than I do with the definition of what a "standard" pattern is. If the people coming/going to/from the airport do a decent job of position reporting I'll get in line behind them even if they are flying a big pattern. Virtually everybody is faster than me so I yield to their standard. (I'd like to see everybody who won't cough up a couple of hundred bucks for a hand-held radio relegated to private fields. It's these same people who also can't seem to see a plane on final when they want the runway.)
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Edward Benson
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 1:05 PM
> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: THE SAFER LANDING PATTERN METHOD
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> From James Meade:
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> "Circling, square, straight in, whatever. I use what fits the situation
> and can do so with safety and consideration for others in each."
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> Maybe its just me, but "consideration for others" is not what comes to mind when I think of another pilot flying "Circling, square, straight in, whatever".
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> Are the other planes in the pattern just supposed to guess what you'll do next time around? Remember, some may not have radios.
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> There's a reason traffic patterns have been standardized over the years - it lets other pilots plan around expected maneuvers by the other planes in the pattern.
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> At non-towered fields, my students are trained to always:
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> 1) overfly the field about 500' above pattern altitude (to check wind sock, runway for obstructions/condition/wildlife)
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> 2) fly clear of the pattern and then descend to a 45º entry to downwind, and then,
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> 3) fly the FAA-defined standard pattern for that field
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> And that's not just for my students - its the way I fly as well.
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> Fast Eddie B. (Ed Benson - Mineral Bluff, GA)
> Sky Arrow 600 E-LSA • N467SA
>


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