Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Getting your new S-LSA home

Good explanation, Helen.  An example I heard of was a PP offering his services to a glider club for free thinking they were bypassing the commercial requirement.  What Helen says is true, it was deemed that the flight time had value and was therefore, compensation in itself. 

 

If you go pick up an airplane for a friend and bring it back home for him, I don't see a problem there.  However, if you put an ad in the paper offering to fly for free, the intent is different.  Make sense?  The young man at the glider club was obviously building time at a commercial operation.

 

Jim

 

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From: Helen Woods

To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 8:06 AM

Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Getting your new S-LSA home

 

Because they are receiving compensation, either in the form of payment,
expenses being covered, or flight time. (Yes, the FAA even considers
the logging of flight time to be compensation.)

Helen

Ralph wrote:
>> Helen Woods <Helen_Woods@...> wrote
>> Option 2: The dealer should be able to recommend a ferry pilot to >hire. If not, call me at the office 410-604-1717 and I'll fix you up >with one. Ferry pilots need to be commercial pilots with a 2nd class
>> medical. They also need to meet whatever requirement your insurance
>> company places on them for time in type, but again, the dealer >should be able to provide that to them.
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> Helen, why do ferry pilots need to have a commercial ticket? I would think any Sport Pilot checked out in that aircraft with x-country experience could ferry it.
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> Ralph
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> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Helen Woods <Helen_Woods@...> wrote:
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>> Bill, you have three options.
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>> 1. Get current and fly it home yourself
>> 2. Hire a ferry pilot
>> 3. Hire a flight instructor to go with you and give you instruction in
>> your plane on the way home
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>> Option 1: You should probably get current at home before heading down
>> to the factory. If there isn't an LSA for rent in your area, get enough
>> ground and dual in whatever small plane you can rent to start rubbing as
>> much rust off as possible. That way you'll be able to minimize the
>> flight training needed when you get to the dealer. Any dealer worth his
>> salt should be able to offer you enough dual to get you through a BFR as
>> well as the time in type required by your insurance company for you to
>> fly your new plane. Your insurance company is going to be the big
>> dictator of what you need and from whom. You'll likely be required by
>> the insurance company to get several hours of dual in type before being
>> able to fly it home even if you are current.
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>> Option 2: The dealer should be able to recommend a ferry pilot to hire.
>> If not, call me at the office 410-604-1717 and I'll fix you up with
>> one. Ferry pilots need to be commercial pilots with a 2nd class
>> medical. They also need to meet whatever requirement your insurance
>> company places on them for time in type, but again, the dealer should be
>> able to provide that to them.
>>
>> Option 3: I'd recommend this one as you'll get your plane home this way,
>> learn your plane well on the way home, and brush up on your rusty cross
>> country skills. You are probably best to hire a CFI with a 2nd class
>> medical because it could get really gray with the FAA as to whether the
>> CFI is acting as an instructor or ferry pilot. Fortunately, these
>> aren't hard to find. (Again give me a call if you have a problem in
>> this area.) The dealer should be able to get your CFI checked out to
>> meet your insurance requirements.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Helen
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>> billhobson@... wrote:
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>>> Let's say I find an S-LSA I want to buy. I go see it and negotiate a price. Let's also say I'm a private pilot with a current medical, but I haven't had a BFR for a looong time (but I have been getting some dual in a local 4-place airplane). How do I get the S-LSA home? (I DO have a valid driver's license.) Can I fly it home? Who checks me out in it? Do they endorse my log book as being cleared to fly it? It's so confusing for us old farts. Thanks.
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