Thursday, October 15, 2009

Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: otherLSAtrainers

While all of your points are well taken and thought provoking, I don't believe you can support the suggestion of lack of safety in composite aircraft. In fact, NASA testing and other testing would suggest a larger safety margin exists. Energy absorption in crash tests would suggest you have a larger pile of pieces to pick up, and they are harder to glue back together, but you would live to see the mess you made :-)
NASA in fact got one of the decommisioned Starships as well as a Lancair and tested them, crashes did not do much damage to occupant areas. I am beginning to sound like a composite salesperson! (I did have a KR2 once, one of the first all composite planes, and it is still flying happily after all these years. Two mishaps were easily repaired at low expense.
Helen shared that mechanics that will repair these are very hard to find, that would be a biggie for most, I am a licenses A&P, so would intend to repair my own damages.

--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "bob mcdonagh" <airpark@...> wrote:
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> I've only recently joined this group. the postings seem much more professional - than a lot of other sites I routinely visit. Great comments and evalutions - on some possible LSA trainers.
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> This group just made me aware of the high costs of repairing composites. (And the safety factor (or lack of one?) - in crashes. And that not too many are made here - thus, hurting our economy and job market(s). (What's new!?)
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> Does anyone know about the Patriot? Don Zank has four pictures of it on his website: Zanklites.com. (Dave @ Quad City designed it.) It's metal framed - with fabric covering. The canopy is one piece, hinged on the side. (I'm wondering if making it - with a T-34 like canopy - would be doable.) ? Down here in SW Florida, you couldn't fly -even taxi it around. Or at most places - in the summer.
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> That would also make it easier to get in and out of. And making it look more like a replica Warbird - might make it into an interesting 'Made in America!' product. How good a basic trainer it would turn out to be - ? But, it is nice looking. And Don says it flies well, has good cross-country speed - and is capable of light aerobatics.
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> Another possible 'Made in America' product - could be making Dennis Whiley's* SPAD into a 'T-SPADXIII. 'T' standing for two place or trainer. All he'd have to do is use his Jenny fuselage - and add the grill and trailing edge scallops to it. (He could also make his Jenny - into a Clipped Wing Jenny. That would be two great LSA's! And I believe - as quick built kits - they could be much less expensive - than most of those overseas composites. (And real 'show stoppers') !
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> Just some observations from a 'Senior Citizen'. I'm trying to build a Children's Aviation Center, a 'Naval Air Estates Airpark, and an aviation themed restaurant - down here in SW Florida. (I'm looking for financing of it.) It will also have some unique features - that will make it an alternative energy center.
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> For information on this 'dream project - (and my educational, military and aviation backgrounds.) visit: www.navalairestates.com, I know I have had to miss some ideas. If any of you can contribute to the project - please do.
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> As the economy is stagnant - I now plan to start - with a downsized Children's Aviation Center - at a local airport in SW Florida. (while trying to find financing for the larger project) Eventually, I'd like to build a second such project - back home, in Mid- Michigan.
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> Both(all future) Centers will provide aerospace education to local students, honor women and minorites in aviation, create jobs, serve as alternative energy labs, offer profit sharing - and add to the local economys! (not China's and other Nations - ours!)
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> And hopefully, each 'center' will have an LSA flying club - as 'part of the picture'.
> There will be a six place 'RAC' - rotating aircraft carrier - as the 'centerpiece' of each center.
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> * And/or Mike Loehle's SPADXIII version. He actually has three war bird versions.
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