I guess it is possible to convert back, I just looked up Dave Blantons Cessna 172, and it is now flying back to standard category with the original engine.!
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Helen Woods <Helen_Woods@...> wrote:
>
> It is my understanding that the answer would be yes, however, you don't
> want to do that. As others have mentioned on this board today there are
> several subcategories of experimental. When you take a standard
> airworthiness certificated aircraft and convert it to experimental the
> one it generally falls into is "experimental exhibition." Certificated
> as such, in most FSDO districts you will need a letter of authorization
> every time you want to fly your plane. (This does vary FSDO to FSDO but
> this is generally the rule.) As such, you are also probably going to
> destroy the resale value of your plane because no one else is going to
> want to do this. So, unless you really want the FSDO to manage all of
> your flying and wish to severely devalue your plane, your better option
> is to find a local IA who will let you do an owner assisted annual for a
> couple of 6 packs or a reasonable fee.
>
> Helen
>
> dongeneda2000 wrote:
> > Thank you Helen, you seem to have made some sense out of the rules that sometimes seem silly.
> > So, back to my original question, IF I were to change an Ercoupe to Experimental category (which means that I as an A&P could perform annuals on it) then I could still fly that experimental plane with only sport pilot priveleges, AS LONG AS I did nothing to change it out of the rules for LSA class aircraft?
> >
> > --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Helen Woods <Helen_Woods@> wrote:
> >
> >> Good grief I woke up to a lot of misinformation in my mailbox this
> >> morning! Well here's the skinny folks:
> >>
> >> 1. If you take a look at the airworthiness certificate of an LSA it is
> >> NOT certificated as an LSA. It will be certificated as STANDARD,
> >> EXPERIMENTAL, or SPECIAL.
> >>
> >> 2. Additionally, if you read the actual definition of an LSA from the
> >> FARs (I sent this around last night) there is NOTHING in there about
> >> changing certificate categories, only changing parameters such as weight
> >> or speed that would take the plane beyond he definition of an LSA
> >>
> >> 3. For example, what you can't do is get an STC for a gross weight
> >> increase beyond 1320 (as is the case on many Champs) and then undo it to
> >> make it an LSA again.
> >>
> >> 4. No. An STC or 337 most certainly does not make a plane an
> >> experimental. If it did, 99% of the planes on any given ramp would be
> >> experimental. (STCs and 337s are a way of life for a certificated
> >> airplane owner. I have a 3 inch binder contain mine for my 1965
> >> standard category Cessna.)
> >>
> >> 5. No. An STC has nothing to do with the manufacturer in most cases.
> >> Every wonder why why a set of retrofited Cessna air vents from Sporty's
> >> costs $700? Because a private company went through the FAA certification
> >> processs to receive the STC for them. An STC is extremly expensive to
> >> get because of the FAA testing and paperwork required. That's part of
> >> the reason that SLSAs do not use STCs but use LOAs from the manufacturer
> >> instead. Dealing with the FAA to get an STC is expensive. Your local
> >> FSDO controls the alternative the 337 and can be problematic.
> >>
> >> 6. Aercoupe rudder pedals are either an STC or 337 deal and certainly
> >> do not make the plane either illegal or experimental when installed by
> >> and A&P and accompanied by the proper paperwork.
> >>
> >> Helen
> >>
> >> Richard Williams wrote:
> >>
> >>> Bob,
> >>>
> >>> Normally, I do not disagree with your statements, so perhaps there is
> >>> some mis-understanding here.
> >>>
> >>> The definition of a LSA, amongst other things, say that the plane can
> >>> not ever have been certificated in any other catagory.
> >>>
> >>> True, a SP pilot can fly a plane that meets the limitations of a LSA,
> >>> However, that does not make that plane a LSA.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> R. Williams
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *---------- Original Message -----------*
> >>> From: Bob Comperini <bob@>
> >>> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> >>> Sent: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:32:05 -0700
> >>> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group How to Tell if Aircraft
> >>> is really LSA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 02:10 PM 10/10/2009, Richard Williams wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Dongen,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NO airplane that has been certificated as 'standard' catagory (or
> >>>>>
> >>> similar) can ever be a LSA.
> >>>
> >>>> Whoah! not true at all. there are several standard category aircraft
> >>>>
> >>> that are LSAs, and can be flown by a Sport Pilot
> >>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Bob Comperini
> >>>> e-mail: bob@ <mailto:bob%40fly-ul.com>
> >>>> WWW: http://www.fly-ul.com <http://www.fly-ul.com/>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> *------- End of Original Message -------*
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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