RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Solid Trainer Aircraft?

Metal airplanes really don't suffer from hidden corrosion if a proper annual is done and the inspection plates are actually removed.  At least on my 152, there are no structural spots that I can't see easily from the inspection ports.  And let's all remember, even 100% composite airplanes, have metal cables, push rods, connectors, etc. so the argument that going to composite eliminates corrosion is not 100% correct.

 

From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lyle Cox
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:07 AM
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Solid Trainer Aircraft?

 

 

What was the reason that Beech decommissioned them?

 

From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dongeneda2000
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 8:41 AM
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I sure do, I used to park my Cherokee in a hangar under the wings of 12 of them during their decomisioning.
The airframe was far stronger than any aluminum aircraft ever built, and is actually stronger now then when built! Never had a delamination problem, and your point was???

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> Remember the Beech Starship?
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> From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of pwrsport@...
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:29 AM
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> Are any composite LSA’s coming apart do to fatigue? Ramos, CT and the Storm Rally that is flying over ten years now with zero problems. One of the most popular GA composite plane flying, the Cirrus â€" fatigue problems, I think not. The new airliners that you will be flying in will be mostly “all composite”. Carbon fiber, stronger that steel with much less weight. However, the all metal Zenair 601 is shedding wings to the point the some countries will not allow it to fly in their airspace. The NTSB is very unhappy with it here in the US. And then there is that nasty (hidden stuff) in metal airplanes called â€" corrosion. Kind of bothers me too.
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> Ed Snyder
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lyle Cox
> Sent: Oct 13, 2009 8:53 PM
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> All good reasons, Helen, PLUS, you can’t tell they getting fatigued until they separate. That kinda bothers me.
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> From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Helen Woods
> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 5:29 PM
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> 1. When they crash, they shatter. (By comparison, we had a student
> cartwheel a Tecnam down the runway and the only thing that broke off was
> the gear. Student walked away without a scratch.)
> 2. Even a little bit of damage is expensive and time consuming to fix.
> (A wing ding cost several thousand to fix.)
> 3. There is no A&P in the entire state of Maryland willing and capable
> of doing composite structural work on an LSA.
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> We have three composite planes all of which have required composite
> work, all which we've had to ship out of state, all of which were down
> for approximately a year during repairs, all of which cost a small
> fortune to repair. Composite LSAs are not suitable in my opinion for
> primary training for these reasons. By contrast, on our metal Tecnams,
> even the worst bang ups (excluding the aforementioned cartwheel which
> was totaled by the insurance company) are fixed in a matter of days.
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> That being said, we're putting a composite hulled SeaRey on the line. I
> think composites are fine for rated and proficient pilots and especially
> seaplanes, just not primary training.
>
> Helen
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> dongeneda2000 wrote:
> > And you consider that to be a BAD thing because?
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