Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Weight problems...

Changing the subject line since has little to do with the Skyscraper.

For reference I have had 580 lbs of meat in my cockpit and still under
gross. I have pictures. That would be over on the C162.

Gary Orpe

->-----Original Message-----
->From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
->[mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Williams
->Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 8:47 AM
->To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
->Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Weight
->problems, was: is everyone here to bash Skycatchers?
->
->
->Jay,
->
->Since you brought up 91.109,
->
->I think I'll mention 61.45, which is much more pertinent to
->this discussion.
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->61.45 Practical tests:
->Required aircraft and equipment
->.
->.
->.
->(c) Required controls
->"..., unless the examiner determines that the practical test
->can be conducted safely in
->the aircraft without the controls being easily reached."
->---------------------------
->
->This means that ground operation controls (steering and
->brake) are not required to be
->available to the examiner.
->This means the examiner does not have to have flight controls
->if the examiner
->determines safety of the flight is adequate for the practical test.
->
->BTW:
->If the examiner thinks the student cannot control the
->aircraft, then what is the
->examiner doing giving a Practical Test?
->
->R. Williams
->
->
->
->
->---------- Original Message -----------
->From: Jay Maynard <jmaynard@conmicro.com>
->To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
->Sent: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 06:15:15 -0500
->Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Weight
->problems, was: is everyone here to
->bash Skycatchers?
->
->> On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 06:45:33AM -0400, Helen Woods wrote:
->> > On 8/9/2010 12:52 AM, Richard Williams wrote:
->> > > What is needed is an CFI to go through the SP maneuvers
->with me and sign me off
->to
->> > > visit a DPE for the oral and checkride.
->> > > unfortunately, most seem to think that having
->steering controls in the back
->seat is a
->> > > big deal. Maybe so for a new student, but not needed with me.
->> > You aren't going to find find a CFI willing to fly without dual
->> > controls. Aside from the obvious personal safety
->concerns a CFI will
->> > have, she is legally obligated to have them. If you
->remember, until you
->> > have your certificate, your CFI is PIC and as such is
->solely responsible
->> > for the safety of the flight. Its impossible to fulfill
->that duty
->> > without access to the controls. Any court of law would
->likely find a CFI
->> > negligent to tried to fulfill that duty without access to
->the controls.
->>
->> There's also the minor matter of 91.109(a), which begins:
->>
->> No person may operate a civil aircraft (except a manned
->free balloon) that
->> is being used for flight instruction unless that aircraft has fully
->> functioning dual controls.
->>
->> It goes on to talk about throw-over yokes for instrument
->training and the
->> like.
->>
->> Richard, you're going to have to install dual controls on
->your trike
->> if you want to use it for instruction, period.
->> --
->> Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, CFI-SP http://www.conmicro.com
->> http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
->> Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!)
->> AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml
->------- End of Original Message -------
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