Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Weight problems, was: is everyone here to bash Skycatchers?

The difference is that on your exam, you may act as pilot in command.
As a student receiving dual instruction, you may not, the CFI is PIC.

I'm honestly not sure why you are so concerned about his as you seem
perfectly happy to fly around illegally from your posts. ???

Helen

On 8/9/2010 11:47 AM, Richard Williams wrote:
> Jay,
>
> Since you brought up 91.109,
>
> I think I'll mention 61.45, which is much more pertinent to this discussion.
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> 61.45 Practical tests:
> Required aircraft and equipment
> .
> .
> .
> (c) Required controls
> "..., unless the examiner determines that the practical test can be conducted safely in
> the aircraft without the controls being easily reached."
> ---------------------------
>
> This means that ground operation controls (steering and brake) are not required to be
> available to the examiner.
> This means the examiner does not have to have flight controls if the examiner
> determines safety of the flight is adequate for the practical test.
>
> BTW:
> If the examiner thinks the student cannot control the aircraft, then what is the
> examiner doing giving a Practical Test?
>
> R. Williams
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From: Jay Maynard<jmaynard@conmicro.com>
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 06:15:15 -0500
> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Weight problems, was: is everyone here to
> bash Skycatchers?
>
>
>> On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 06:45:33AM -0400, Helen Woods wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/9/2010 12:52 AM, Richard Williams wrote:
>>>
>>>> What is needed is an CFI to go through the SP maneuvers with me and sign me off
>>>>
> to
>
>>>> visit a DPE for the oral and checkride.
>>>> unfortunately, most seem to think that having steering controls in the back
>>>>
> seat is a
>
>>>> big deal. Maybe so for a new student, but not needed with me.
>>>>
>>> You aren't going to find find a CFI willing to fly without dual
>>> controls. Aside from the obvious personal safety concerns a CFI will
>>> have, she is legally obligated to have them. If you remember, until you
>>> have your certificate, your CFI is PIC and as such is solely responsible
>>> for the safety of the flight. Its impossible to fulfill that duty
>>> without access to the controls. Any court of law would likely find a CFI
>>> negligent to tried to fulfill that duty without access to the controls.
>>>
>> There's also the minor matter of 91.109(a), which begins:
>>
>> No person may operate a civil aircraft (except a manned free balloon) that
>> is being used for flight instruction unless that aircraft has fully
>> functioning dual controls.
>>
>> It goes on to talk about throw-over yokes for instrument training and the
>> like.
>>
>> Richard, you're going to have to install dual controls on your trike
>> if you want to use it for instruction, period.
>> --
>> Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, CFI-SP http://www.conmicro.com
>> http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
>> Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!)
>> AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml
>>
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