Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Flying an ELSA with a Sport Pilot license into Canada?

At the EAA "ask the expert" site the expert wrote:
"Neither the sport pilot certificate nor the ELSA airworthiness certificate are internationally recognized. In order to fly to Canada as you suggest, you would have to have specific written permission from Transport Canada for both yourself as the pilot and your aircraft in order to operate in Canadian airspace."

Logically (although government departments are not always logical) it would seem that would be fine with the Canadians as our LSA standards meet what they call their Ultralight standards (and of course they have been allowing the older LSA classificable aircraft such as Taylorcraft, etc) in their skys for decades) and out Sport Pilot licensing standards, IIRR, meet or exceed their standards for an Ultraligh pilot's permit.

So here are the questions:

# Has anyone here or anyone you know ever flown into Canada with a US LSA and a Sport Pilot license, either with or without that "written permission?"

# Has anyone here or anyone you know or now of ever tried to get written permission (from Transport Canada) to do that?

# If so did they get permission, or were flatly turned down, or given conditional permission, or just gave up after getting a runaround?

------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sport_Aircraft/

<*> Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sport_Aircraft/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
Sport_Aircraft-digest@yahoogroups.com
Sport_Aircraft-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
Sport_Aircraft-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group brs recovery

Also, check with the Department of Transportation or look at the rules.  Shipment of rocket motors are generally classified 1.3 as a hazardous reactive material and not explosive.  The regulations spell out what you can ship over the road and in the air.  explosives are rated 1.1 and need to be made less reactive before shipping but 1.3, 1.4, and 1.5 reactive materials are a different story.

On Jun 18, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Bob Comperini wrote:

 

You can still ship the chutes. You just remove the rocket motor and destroy it per BRS instructions. The new owner then just orders a new rocket motor from BRS

--

Bob Comperini

Since there is the rocket, an explosive pyrotechnic device, it cannot be shipped

__._,_.___

Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional
Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required)
Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured
Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe

__,_._,___

Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group brs recovery

You can still ship the chutes. You just remove the rocket motor and destroy it per BRS instructions. The new owner then just orders a new rocket motor from BRS

--

Bob Comperini

Since there is the rocket, an explosive pyrotechnic device, it cannot be shipped

__._,_.___

Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional
Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required)
Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured
Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe

__,_._,___

Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group brs recovery

Legally.  Unless you're licensed.  I'm sure people ship stuff and lie about the contents.  For an example of the potential results, google "Valuejet 592" or go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ValuJet_Flight_592 or you can read the entire NTSB 271 page pdf file if you're seriously motivated.  (I was not.  I get enough material on the subject at work.)

 

I have an expired BRS 1050 for sale.  Use it, repack it, whatever.  But, you need to pick it up at my place.  I won't ship it.  I don't have the license to ship hazmat.

 

Jim

 

 

From: Richard Williams

Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 10:59 AM

To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group brs recovery

 

 

Jay,

Since there is the rocket, an explosive pyrotechnic device, it cannot be shipped
within the U.S.A.

R. Williams

---------- Original Message -----------
From: "JAY" <mailto:sailpotion9%40sbcglobal.net>
To: mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:54:24 -0000
Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group brs recovery

> Their is a good ballistic parachute on ebay
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ballistic-Recovery-system-/110703863960?pt=Motors_Aviation_Parts_Gear&hash=item19c676e898#ht_499wt_1183
------- End of Original Message -------

__._,_.___

Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional
Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required)
Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured
Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe

__,_._,___

Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group brs recovery

Jay,

Since there is the rocket, an explosive pyrotechnic device, it cannot be shipped
within the U.S.A.

R. Williams

---------- Original Message -----------
From: "JAY" <sailpotion9@sbcglobal.net>
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:54:24 -0000
Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group brs recovery

> Their is a good ballistic parachute on ebay
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ballistic-Recovery-system-/110703863960?pt=Motors_Aviation_Parts_Gear&hash=item19c676e898#ht_499wt_1183
------- End of Original Message -------

------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sport_Aircraft/

<*> Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sport_Aircraft/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
Sport_Aircraft-digest@yahoogroups.com
Sport_Aircraft-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
Sport_Aircraft-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group brs recovery

Their is a good ballistic parachute on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ballistic-Recovery-system-/110703863960?pt=Motors_Aviation_Parts_Gear&hash=item19c676e898#ht_499wt_1183

------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sport_Aircraft/

<*> Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sport_Aircraft/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
Sport_Aircraft-digest@yahoogroups.com
Sport_Aircraft-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
Sport_Aircraft-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group New video - How to see your home town

No, but I can be there easily.  I'm close enough to smell the exhaust.

 

TM

I'd rather die while I'm livin' than live like I'm dead.

---

From: apollonorthamerica <apollonorthamerica@yahoo.com>
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group New video - How to see your home town

 

Do you live in the Tampa Bay region?
Abid

--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Roger <simon_d_pieman@...> wrote:
>
> I look forward to it.  If you need a back seat monkey, let me know.
>
>
> TM
>
>
> I'd rather die while I'm livin' than live like I'm dead.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: apollonorthamerica <apollonorthamerica@...>
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 10:55 AM
> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group New video - How to see your home town
>
>
>  
> http://youtu.be/Elen01AZ5zI
>
> Very soon I will be flying a Revo that we built to deliver it to Alabama along Florida's west coast and then in mid July flying a Revo to Oshkosh in Wisconsin over Tennessee mountains and through the flat farms of the midwest in the US. I am thinking to blogging about it with pictures from this whole 2400 mile trip through the eastern side of US. This will be my third time going across east side of US. This time I will try and share it with others through facebook and blogs.
>
> The feeling of majesty of nature that you get flying in an open cockpit aircraft through these scenes is not something that comes across in pictures or words. I hope I can do it some justice. I hope you can enjoy this experience through me.
>
> Best,
> Abid Farooqui
> http://www.evolutiontrikes.com
>

__._,_.___

Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional
Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required)
Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured
Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe

__,_._,___