Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Best, Safest LSA Aircraft for Mountain and Cross Country Flying

The Sonex is fine for cross country, if you're not carrying too much gear (40lb max), but with the Jab 3300 it has short legs, with a range of about 400 miles. With the Aerovee engine that goes way up to 550 miles, but 80hp might not be enough juice in a big mountain downdraft.

If you're talking two people, lots of additional baggage, and long range, I'd look at the CTSW/CTLS and the Remos G600/GX. The CT has the advantage of a ballistic chute as standard equipment, which could save your bacon in a bad mountain experience.

The T211 Thorpedo also has a 600+lb useful load if you want a low wing.

Good luck!

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> With the recent FAA changes allowing a maximum altitude of 2,000' AGL, now you can finally use LSA aircraft for true cross country / cross USA / cross mountain flying. However, for safety and comfort, to avoid potentially severe and dangerous mountain generated turbulence, it is best to fly at least 1,500' above mountain peaks and ridges. On a warm summer day, the density altitude could be many thousands of feet higher than the actual altitude . . . one could land at an airport such as the airport in Leadville, CO . . . http://www.lxvairport.com . . . and not be able to take off again, if the density altitude is near your aircraft's maximum service ceiling.
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> What are the best and safest LSA aircraft for true cross country, cross mountain flying, and that have a high service ceiling? LSA aircraft that I have looked at, typically at best, have a maximum service ceiling of 15,000'. The Sonex homebuilt, experimental aircraft model that uses the Jabiru 6-cylinder, 120HP engine, lists the potential service ceiling as being 23,000'. The Sonex is an amazing aircraft, but I don't think that the designers intended its primary mission to be a true, hard-core, cross country machine, for two people. The Sonex is like a small sports car, very tight accommodations, and very little space for baggage / storage. Further, not everyone has the time, space, ability, or desire to build their own aircraft.
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Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Best, Safest LSA Aircraft for Mountain and Cross Country Flying

With the recent FAA changes allowing a maximum altitude of 2,000' AGL, now you can finally use LSA aircraft for true cross country / cross USA / cross mountain flying. However, for safety and comfort, to avoid potentially severe and dangerous mountain generated turbulence, it is best to fly at least 1,500' above mountain peaks and ridges. On a warm summer day, the density altitude could be many thousands of feet higher than the actual altitude . . . one could land at an airport such as the airport in Leadville, CO . . . http://www.lxvairport.com . . . and not be able to take off again, if the density altitude is near your aircraft's maximum service ceiling.

What are the best and safest LSA aircraft for true cross country, cross mountain flying, and that have a high service ceiling? LSA aircraft that I have looked at, typically at best, have a maximum service ceiling of 15,000'. The Sonex homebuilt, experimental aircraft model that uses the Jabiru 6-cylinder, 120HP engine, lists the potential service ceiling as being 23,000'. The Sonex is an amazing aircraft, but I don't think that the designers intended its primary mission to be a true, hard-core, cross country machine, for two people. The Sonex is like a small sports car, very tight accommodations, and very little space for baggage / storage. Further, not everyone has the time, space, ability, or desire to build their own aircraft.

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Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group sweating bullets: when a vfr pilot transitions to ifr

 

I sent a friend this story...

http://www.pacificflyer.com/2010/04/a-10-pilot-saves-mooney-driver/

 

He replied with this personal experience...

Around 15 yrs ago I was on a trip home from Fl. It was summer hot, hazy and a lot of thunderstorms around the CHS area. I was listening to all the pilot radio chatter in the region and decided to land CHS get my feet on the ground and do a proper weather check. Picked up CHA approach from about 35 mi out and got vectored in. They kept bringing me down a few thousand ft at a time, I was at 12,000'. I was weaving in and around big buildups all the while. My responsibility was always to stay clear of the clouds. The final clearance from 3000'  at 6 mi out. 2145Q cleared to land rwy 35, descend maintain 1000'  rwy 12 o'clock. 6 mi. I complied and ended up going down a blind alley between clouds. I called back, said I was going lower to remain VFR, he said "roger 45Q". It was too late I was in solid IMC, went as low as 700 ft, held it there about 2 minutes, couldn't see anything. I started getting nervous about my altitude being too busy flying to check the chart for obstacles so I listened to the voice of my original instructor. Fly the plane 1st, sort everything out later. I held the heading brought it back up to 1000 and waited. The controller called out 45Q rwy is 5 mi 12 o'clock. Next he called out 45Q rwy is 4 mi 11 o'clock, next call 3 mi 10 o'clock. He then asked "45Q do you have the rwy? I replied negative. He now caught on to what was happening and said "45Q stand by". He came right back said " 45Q amended clearance, cleared to land rwy 17 we will vector you around". He continued with me kept giving me turns of 5 degrees or so. Finally " 45Q  rwy 2 mi 12 o'clock check gear down" I put my gear down and popped out of a cloud to a totally clear patch over the runway. I just touched down as lightening was striking the other end of the runway. I rolled out and hit what seemed like a waterfall half way down the rwy. I taxied up to the ramp and called and thanked the controller for his assistance and then thanked my maker.

 I'm extremely thankful for a military controller that day. He was quick, sharp, professional. He caught on the situation quickly and didn't say, or make me say anything on the tape that would bring in the FAA. Once, an indiscretion of any nature is stated on the tape, officials have to be involved. So I was lucky in many ways that day. I lived, didn't lose my license and I learned some priceless lessons.

 Fortunately I don't have too many stories like this one.

 

Jim

 

 

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Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Trike Video - Flying Lake Powell

Hello All,

Enjoy the wonderful scenery of Lake Powell, Vermillion Cliffs, Glen Canyon and more in this video. Under the "add comments" button is a link to the Youtube and Vimeo versions in case you are having issues downloading it:

http://www.emuvideo.com/videos.php?page=trike20100328

Enjoy!

Damien

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Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Vote for Bob!

Hey gang, I hope all of you who are NAFI members will take a moment this
week to open up your new issue of Mentor and send in your ballot for the
board of directors. This is a historic occasion, the first time we get
to vote for the board. It is also an opportunity to have the first
sport pilot flight instructor on the board, Bob Snyder. Bob is a member
of my staff and an outstanding instructor. He has been a local EAA
president, has built several planes, and is the instructor I turn too
when we have students looking for homebuilt aircraft transitions and
other non-standard instruction duties. He is very giving of his time
and has great management skills making him an invaluable member of my
staff. I know he will be of equally great value to the NAFI board. So
please vote for Bob!

Helen

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Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group A couple of videos from Sean

Nice video... I need to get some trike time.
 

Michael Hilderbrand
Derby, Kansas
Sonex #1017 Flying
Jabiru 3300 w/ Aerocarb
Http://www.kansasflying.com

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From: apollonorthamerica <apollonorthamerica@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group A couple of videos from Sean

 

http://www.trikepil ot.com/videos/ view/father- son-beach- flight_8266. html

http://www.trikepilot.com/videos/view/field-flying-a-deltajet_8259.html

Enjoy
Abid
http://www.evolutiontrikes.com

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Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group A couple of videos from Sean

http://www.trikepilot.com/videos/view/father-son-beach-flight_8266.html

http://www.trikepilot.com/videos/view/field-flying-a-deltajet_8259.html

Enjoy
Abid
http://www.evolutiontrikes.com

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