Thursday, April 21, 2011

Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil??



Using Opti-2 at 100:1 is really not any different than running Pennzoil at 50:1.  It is much more concentrated (thicker, if you will) than the standard 50:1 oils, but dilutes just fine in the fuel. It's not a magic formula that allows you to run it at higher ratios.  Also, you will not gain anything by running it at lower ratios.

I'm not selling anything and I don't care if you go with a different oil. Pennzoil Air-Cooled always worked well for me, but so does Opti-2 and after using it for hundreds of hours on a 503 and 582, I think it works pretty good.  Several friends have been using it for years, also.

Like I said, it CANNOT be used in oil-injection since it is formulated to be mixed at 100:1.  If you pre-mix, you are fine.  Other than keeping the engine relatively clean and mixing well with oxygenated fuels, the biggest advantage is that you carry less on X-countries.

Some people sweat the high ratio

--- On Wed, 4/20/11, Robert Taylor <flydad57@neo.rr.com> wrote:

From: Robert Taylor <flydad57@neo.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil??
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 4:00 PM

 

Thanks for that.
Bob Taylor
TigerCub N657RT

Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil??

 

I would not put Amsoil in any thing, I have tried it in three engines and all of them up in about one thousand miles. One only had 24,000miles on it it threw a rod and busted a piston. Never again, its no dam good.

Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 12:50:06 PM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil??

 

Are you saying that you would not recommend using, say, Amsoil at 100:1, if the mfg'r. called out something else at 50:1?  What oil do you use, and at what ratio?
 
Bob Taylor
TigerCub N657RT

Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil??

 

Oils come and go, but what will never change is the oil-to-gas ratio as proscribed by the engine manufacturer.  As long as the oil type is what is recommended, and the oil ratio is what is recommended, you should be free to try what you like.  I've tried a wide variety of oils, but they all meet the minimum requirements and oil ratio per the mfg.  I've not been able to detect much of difference between them, so I tend to look for the best price.


  -- Robert


On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Robert Taylor <flydad57@neo.rr.com> wrote:


Group,

 

                At the risk of starting up the old oil debate….  I was at my local lawnmower parts establishment yesterday.  It is owned by a pilot friend of mine who is quite knowledgeable about engines of all types.  We got on the subject of two-cycle oil and he introduced me to an oil called Opti-2.  It is supposedly a new type of formulation, requiring only 1.2 ounces per gallon for any two-stroke engine, regardless of make or mix ratio.  It has an ISO rating of EG-D++ which is the highest rating available.  You can check it out at  www.opti2-4.com . He swears by it, and uses it in his chain saws, blowers, and weedeaters.  It is also recommended for use in snowmobiles, outboards, and personal watercraft.

                I was just wondering if anyone here had heard of it, and whether anyone here was using it.  I realize that our aircraft engines are a bit of a different breed, but I am curious just the same.  I currently use Castrol RS TTS, per my engine mfgr's recommendation, but it's getting hard to find.  At 1.2 oz. per gallon, I could reduce my oil costs considerably.  I know there are many options available, but was interested in feedback regarding the Opti-2.

                I would appreciate comments, positive or negative, especially those of the constructive variety.

 

Bob Taylor
TigerCub N657RT
Wadsworth, Ohio





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Wednesday, April 20, 2011

Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group elas training club




It is easer than you think  to set up a EAB to train UL in   people do it all the time.  
Malcolm Brubaker
Michigan Sport
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LSRM-A, PPC, WS
(989)513-3022


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Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Compensation as a SP flying an ELSA??

> So this is the scenario that is currently happening and I want to be
> able to do this as well...if it is legal. If its not legal, then how
> are they able to do it?? I have asked the NPO if they have a waiver
> from the FAA and they have not responded.
>
> NPO owns several ELSA aircraft for it's contract Sport Pilots to fly
> and pays all associated expenses.
>
> NPO's CEO/SP gets paid 100 grand+ for wages including running the NPO
> and flying NPO owned ELSA.
>
> NPO hires a few SP contractors and pays their wages and all the costs
> of operating NPO owned ELSA aircraft.
>
> NPO has public website to show beautiful wildlife photos taken by SP's
> flying NPO owned ELSA and tugs at the hearts and purse strings of its
> audience and raises funds to pay wages and expenses.


Well.... sounds like a dodgy operation to me,
so I'm not voting for them.


Cheers,
Mike

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Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: FAA wavers

Hi Mark, nice hearing from you. Thanks for your support of OM over the years and the help with the de-icing fluid.

OM (Operation Migration) took 4 Canadian registered aircraft and disguised them to look like "fat" UL's registering them in the fall of 2007 as ELSA...taking advantage of the one time conversion. All of the pilots became Sport Pilots and do not have higher ratings.

N2613T same as C-IEQV
N2614T same as C-IACT
N2615T same as C-IACP
N2616T same as C-IAKQ

http://wwwapps2.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/2/ccarcs/aspscripts/en/quicksearch.asp
Canada registration lookup

http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Inquiry.aspx
USA registration lookup


NPO = non profit organization

--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, mpoliak@... wrote:
>
>
>
> MESO,
>
> If the OM is Operation Migration, they operate Canadian
> planes and not United States ELSA's to my knowledge.  FLying Canadian
> registered airplanes isn't against the law so you don't have to fix that
> which may be one reason they are not returning your comments unless I
> misunderstood your point.  I didn't know what a NPO stood for so
> wasn't sure.


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Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: FAA wavers



MESO,

If the OM is Operation Migration, they operate Canadian planes and not United States ELSA's to my knowledge.  FLying Canadian registered airplanes isn't against the law so you don't have to fix that which may be one reason they are not returning your comments unless I misunderstood your point.  I didn't know what a NPO stood for so wasn't sure.

Mark Poliak
Astra HKS
Westfield, IN


> Thanks for the link, sounds complicated and time consuming and I do not
> see how they would change a rule to allow compensation...but I will give
> it a shot.
>
> I forwarded this link to OM in case they want to try and get legal.
>
> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Helen Woods <Helen_Woods@...>
> wrote:
>
>> Nice article on getting FAA wavers for things like restoring endangered
>> species...
>>
>> http://www.faa.gov/news/safety_briefing/2011/media/JanFeb2011.pdf
>
>
>
>


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Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Compensation as a SP flying an ELSA??



Hello
The response to a issue of the legality is often in the form of the question and how they got to that point
The planes may not be hired but the pilots can You hire a mechanic and his tools come free It may have started out as a freebie for a friend and the return as the use increased was fuel then paying someone to fly the planes then  to cost of maintenance
If the FDSO thinks its a worthwhile proposal and the questions asked are framed for the desired outcome it goes through
 Ask if you can check powerlines for a utility and the answer will be NO!
Ask if you can monitor weed infestations in a reserve and the chances are good for ok
Peter

--- On Thu, 4/21/11, Gary <garyo@bak.rr.com> wrote:

From: Gary <garyo@bak.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Compensation as a SP flying an ELSA??
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, April 21, 2011, 6:15 AM

 

Seems to me you need to find your answers from the NPO that is doing it. Are you looking to see if they are legal doing what they do so you can do it also? Or are you complaining about their operations itself? At any rate your answer rests with the regulations and the FSDO interpretations at the location it is being done, not with the NPO and whatever they are doing. If they are telling their pilots to lie, I wouldn't be excited about taking lessons with them, especially since you have made it public information now.

Gary

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From: Meso <meso@tds.net>
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, Apr 20, 2011 19:30:49 GMT+00:00
Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Compensation as a SP flying an ELSA??

I have tried to contact them but they will not respond, hence my reason for seeking out other avenues of info on how to do this legally.

Is a 501C3 allowed to own a fleet of ELSA aircraft and pay for all the expenses if flown by volunteer pilots?

--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Helen Woods wrote:
>
> A 501C3 is allowed to donate fuel and you do not need to be a commercial
> pilot to accept such from a 501C3. If the pilots are volunteers, the
> operation may be legit. Your best bet is to ask them not us if you are
> concerned about their specific case.




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Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil??



Sorry you did not have good results. Did you get an analysis after the failure to see if the oil was at fault? The reason I ask is that I have used it in extended drain interval on several cars and have put big miles on them all. I have also used their 2 cycle in boat and yard machine applications with good results (I did not mix 100:1 in the boat – I used it much closer to manufacturer numbers).
 
Disclosure I was a dealer for a while but only for my own use. I have since dropped the dealership and buy from someone else and now also use other synthetics when economics dictate. Just curious if they stood behind the failure if you had the oil checked.
 
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil??
 
 

I would not put Amsoil in any thing, I have tried it in three engines and all of them up in about one thousand miles. One only had 24,000miles on it it threw a rod and busted a piston. Never again, its no dam good.
 
Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 12:50:06 PM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil??

 

Are you saying that you would not recommend using, say, Amsoil at 100:1, if the mfg'r. called out something else at 50:1?  What oil do you use, and at what ratio?
 
Bob Taylor
TigerCub N657RT
 
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Anybody know anything about Opti-2 oil??
 
 

Oils come and go, but what will never change is the oil-to-gas ratio as proscribed by the engine manufacturer.  As long as the oil type is what is recommended, and the oil ratio is what is recommended, you should be free to try what you like.  I've tried a wide variety of oils, but they all meet the minimum requirements and oil ratio per the mfg.  I've not been able to detect much of difference between them, so I tend to look for the best price.

 
  -- Robert


On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Robert Taylor <flydad57@neo.rr.com> wrote:


Group,

 

                At the risk of starting up the old oil debate….  I was at my local lawnmower parts establishment yesterday.  It is owned by a pilot friend of mine who is quite knowledgeable about engines of all types.  We got on the subject of two-cycle oil and he introduced me to an oil called Opti-2.  It is supposedly a new type of formulation, requiring only 1.2 ounces per gallon for any two-stroke engine, regardless of make or mix ratio.  It has an ISO rating of EG-D++ which is the highest rating available.  You can check it out at  www.opti2-4.com . He swears by it, and uses it in his chain saws, blowers, and weedeaters.  It is also recommended for use in snowmobiles, outboards, and personal watercraft.

                I was just wondering if anyone here had heard of it, and whether anyone here was using it.  I realize that our aircraft engines are a bit of a different breed, but I am curious just the same.  I currently use Castrol RS TTS, per my engine mfgr's recommendation, but it's getting hard to find.  At 1.2 oz. per gallon, I could reduce my oil costs considerably.  I know there are many options available, but was interested in feedback regarding the Opti-2.

                I would appreciate comments, positive or negative, especially those of the constructive variety.

 

Bob Taylor
TigerCub N657RT
Wadsworth, Ohio


 

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