Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Solid Trainer Aircraft?

We have had two instances of delamination due to fatigue.

Helen

pwrsport@ix.netcom.com wrote:
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> Are any composite LSA's coming apart do to fatigue? Ramos, CT and the
> Storm Rally that is flying over ten years now with zero problems. One
> of the most popular GA composite plane flying, the Cirrus – fatigue
> problems, I think not. The new airliners that you will be flying in
> will be mostly "all composite". Carbon fiber, stronger that steel with
> much less weight. However, the all metal Zenair 601 is shedding wings
> to the point the some countries will not allow it to fly in their
> airspace. The NTSB is very unhappy with it here in the US. And then
> there is that nasty (hidden stuff) in metal airplanes called –
> corrosion. Kind of bothers me too.
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> Ed Snyder
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lyle Cox
> Sent: Oct 13, 2009 8:53 PM
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Solid Trainer
> Aircraft?
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> All good reasons, Helen, PLUS, you can't tell they getting
> fatigued until they separate. That kinda bothers me.
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> *From:* Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Helen Woods
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 13, 2009 5:29 PM
> *To:* Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Solid Trainer
> Aircraft?
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> 1. When they crash, they shatter. (By comparison, we had a student
> cartwheel a Tecnam down the runway and the only thing that broke
> off was
> the gear. Student walked away without a scratch.)
> 2. Even a little bit of damage is expensive and time consuming to
> fix.
> (A wing ding cost several thousand to fix.)
> 3. There is no A&P in the entire state of Maryland willing and
> capable
> of doing composite structural work on an LSA.
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> We have three composite planes all of which have required composite
> work, all which we've had to ship out of state, all of which were
> down
> for approximately a year during repairs, all of which cost a small
> fortune to repair. Composite LSAs are not suitable in my opinion for
> primary training for these reasons. By contrast, on our metal
> Tecnams,
> even the worst bang ups (excluding the aforementioned cartwheel which
> was totaled by the insurance company) are fixed in a matter of days.
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> That being said, we're putting a composite hulled SeaRey on the
> line. I
> think composites are fine for rated and proficient pilots and
> especially
> seaplanes, just not primary training.
>
> Helen
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> dongeneda2000 wrote:
> > And you consider that to be a BAD thing because?
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