Monday, October 11, 2010

Re: Re: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: THE SAFER LANDING PATTERN METHOD



Location, quality of instruction, and quality of management are what make or break a flight school, not the cost of plane.  There are plenty of Cirrus schools doing quite well.

If you really want to get involved in increasing the pilot numbers, set up a school that meets those criteria.

Helen


Oct 11, 2010 02:24:47 PM, Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com wrote:
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Yes Helen, your school is doing well and I'm happy for you and those
>people who could and did invest into the organization. But the school you work at is not the norm across the U.S. A huge void exists for Sport Pilot training. I also witness Sport Pilot training schools who are struggling to make ends
>meet and know of others that have closed due to the high cost of overhead. There still exists a large segment of population who want to fly simple low
>cost aircraft over the local countryside. A new generation of Ultralight aircraft and schools could provide that.

Ed Snyder


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>0px">-----Original Message-----
>From: Helen Woods
>Sent: Oct 11, 2010 7:39 AM
>To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: THE SAFER LANDING PATTERN
>METHOD
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While I certaimly support ultralights, if you don't think sport pilot is bringing
>us a great new generation of pilots, I invite you to come spend a weekend at my
>school.
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>Helen
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>Oct 11, 2010 03:09:16 AM, mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" class="parsedEmail
>parsedEmail">Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com wrote:
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The genesis of Sport Aviation, Ultralights. Never has so little given us so much, for without them Sport Aviation would
>not be here and where it is today. And really then, where is it with our now hundred thousand plus dollar airplanes? Was this the intent? Is the movement now providing the ways and means expand aviation to where
>those who want to fly can? Is Sport Pilot bringing in the next generation of pilots? I think not and that Sport Plane/Pilot may be losing its way. The era may be ripe for the next phase – Back to the future. As it was pointed out in one film – the whole point of it all was to provide
>those who wanted to fly safely and at an affordable price the means to experience
>that quest. Ultralights did and can do that. Sport Planes have their place providing great flying machines to those otherwise
>would be forced out of aviation and others who want that kind of flying, generally, go as fast as you can at altitude between point A to point B. Many want the flight experience of just savoring the local area, to smell
>the air and really take it turf and tundra with unobstructed views at under five
>hundred feet and fifty miles an hour if they choose, searching and exploring the
>world as no other way can. God bless Ultralights, may they rise again.

Ed Snyder

Ps. Many of the early designed Ultralights were substandard flying machines
>and have no place in the futures. But many were and still are worthy flying craft. Then there were others
>who were ahead of their time, all metal planes that would fit perfectly well today,
>one such was the Vampire ultralight, picture attached of it.


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>>0px">-----Original Message-----
>>From: Roger Poyner
>>Sent: Oct 10, 2010 11:24 AM
>>To: mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" class="parsedEmail
>parsedEmail parsedEmail">Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: THE SAFER LANDING PATTERN
>METHOD
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I agree. I started flying ULs in the mid 80s. There were a wide
>>variety of types flying. Several promising new designs went down the tubes
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>>during this time. These planes sold complete for less than the engines do
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>>now. I still have a soft spot for these early planes and still own a 1983
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>>Starflight DBL. Roger P
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From: Gary Orpe <mailto:garyo@bak.rr.com" target="_blank" class="parsedEmail parsedEmail
>parsedEmail">garyo@bak.rr.com>
>>To: mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" class="parsedEmail
>parsedEmail parsedEmail">Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
>>Sent: Sun, October 10, 2010 12:52:44 PM
>>Subject: RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: THE SAFER LANDING PATTERN METHOD
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> And this is quite a shove back to the UL days that
>will never be again. Just an example of what has happened, but like the man says,
>should have been done 10 years ago. Too late now for complaining about it, but thought
>it was interesting enough to those of us who came into aviation through the UL route
>and eventually then to Sport Pilot.

Gary Orpe

-----Original Message-----
>>From: mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" class="parsedEmail
>parsedEmail parsedEmail">Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" class="parsedLink
>parsedEmail parsedEmail">mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Orpe
>>Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 10:37 AM
>>To: mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" class="parsedEmail
>parsedEmail parsedEmail">Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: THE SAFER LANDING PATTERN METHOD
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And here is another from the other side of the Sport,
>low end coming up. Interesting they still call these things Ultralights....

Gary Orpe

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>parsedEmail parsedEmail">Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" class="parsedLink
>parsedEmail parsedEmail">mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Laird
>>Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 11:35 AM
>>To: mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" class="parsedEmail
>parsedEmail parsedEmail">Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: THE SAFER LANDING PATTERN METHOD
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Wow. Actual HUMOR in aviation.... amazing. (Funny, too! And
>>it doesn't hurt that I agree 100% with what he says.)
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