Wasn't there a light sport on the market; that was a push puller plane? It looked like a small Cessnaa? great looking. being a twine engine, I don't know if that fits it into the light sport catagory. I think it wes made in the midwest. ? Bob McDonagh
Alex, My phone number is below. I just bought a Sonex with a Jab 3300. Haven't taken possession of it yet and when I do i have to get a few hours of dual in it to satisfy the insurance people. For now I will be based at the Oroville (KOVE) airport and eventually at Paradise (CA92), which is closer to where I live (Magalia). If you fly into Paradise I could pick you up. It's a private field, but I can get the OK for you to land there. I'd love to talk blue sky projects as I have many and am always interested in what others are dreaming up. I have attached some photos of a 1/4 scale model of the CCW project that is based on a Titan II. Also included one of a 3/4 scale P-39 mock-up that's hanging in my shop and one of my rolling test stand that has a variable ratio reduction unit driving the prop.
Vince Homer
(760) 375-4554
(626) 497-8735 (C)
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
From: acensor@fastmail.fm
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 05:01:38 +0000
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group LSA Rule Question
Send me your phone number as a private reply if you'd like to sometime meet face to face just for fun.
I'm a two hour flight in my LSA from Corning,
and very occassionally fly down there to get Brian (who is a VERY experienced Rotax and LSA guy) work on my plane.
Don't know if it's practical but I'd love to see a single engine driving counter rotating front and back props.
And a way to disingauge one prop for low fuel use cruising.
Also totally blue sky.
Interesting, that a private pilot can fly even a true multiengine EXPERIMENTAL without a multiengine rating, though.
Alex
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Homer <vhhomer@...> wrote:
>
>
> Alex, Thanks for the reply. I used to work wirth Brian and live about 30 miles from his home aitport. I will have to stop by there and see the airplane. I have read some about it and it's quite a project. The reason for this inquiry is I am looking at a future project involving a Custer Channel wing aircraft using a Titan, or similar, fuselage as a start and single engine driving two props, one in each channel. Just blue sky at this point.
>
> Vince Homer
>
> (760) 375-4554
>
> (626) 497-8735 (C)
>
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> From: acensor@...
> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 01:32:34 +0000
> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group LSA Rule Question
>
>
> Hi Vince,
>
>
>
> See ---
>
> http://www.electricmotorglider.com/index.html
>
> -- where it reads
>
> "FAA regulations do not require a pilot to possess a multiengine rating when flying a single place [mulitengine] experimental aircraft. A multiengine rating would be required for the carriage of passengers."
>
>
>
> In short, you could fly a two propeller _single_ engine two propeller experimental single seat aircraft with a sport pilot license as long as it complied with the rest of the LSA definition.
>
>
>
> By the way, that link is a very interesting site about a two prop electric powered motor glider being developed currently by Brian Carpenter.
>
>
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> > From: Vince <vhhomer@>
>
> > To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:35 PM
>
> > Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group LSA Rule Question
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > The LSA requirements state, "single engine and fixed pitch or ground adjustable propeller." Does the use of the singular term, "propeller," limit a builder to only one?
>
> >
>
> > Does anyone have an opinion, or better yet, an official ruling on the use of one engine and two propellers either in the contra-rotating or or separate configuration like the Wright Brothers Flyer?
>
> >
>
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Re: LSA Rule Question by "circicirci" circicirci
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Re: LSA Rule Question by "Vincent Homer" vhhomer
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Re: LSA Rule Question by "Vince" vhhomer
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Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:01 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"circicirci" circicirci
Send me your phone number as a private reply if you'd like to sometime meet face to face just for fun.
I'm a two hour flight in my LSA from Corning,
and very occassionally fly down there to get Brian (who is a VERY experienced Rotax and LSA guy) work on my plane.
Don't know if it's practical but I'd love to see a single engine driving counter rotating front and back props.
And a way to disingauge one prop for low fuel use cruising.
Also totally blue sky.
Interesting, that a private pilot can fly even a true multiengine EXPERIMENTAL without a multiengine rating, though.
Alex
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Homer <vhhomer@...> wrote:
>
>
> Alex, Thanks for the reply. I used to work wirth Brian and live about 30 miles from his home aitport. I will have to stop by there and see the airplane. I have read some about it and it's quite a project. The reason for this inquiry is I am looking at a future project involving a Custer Channel wing aircraft using a Titan, or similar, fuselage as a start and single engine driving two props, one in each channel. Just blue sky at this point.
>
> Vince Homer
>
> (760) 375-4554
>
> (626) 497-8735 (C)
>
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> From: acensor@...
> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 01:32:34 +0000
> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group LSA Rule Question
>
>
> Hi Vince,
>
>
>
> See ---
>
> http://www.electricmotorglider.com/index.html
>
> -- where it reads
>
> "FAA regulations do not require a pilot to possess a multiengine rating when flying a single place [mulitengine] experimental aircraft. A multiengine rating would be required for the carriage of passengers."
>
>
>
> In short, you could fly a two propeller _single_ engine two propeller experimental single seat aircraft with a sport pilot license as long as it complied with the rest of the LSA definition.
>
>
>
> By the way, that link is a very interesting site about a two prop electric powered motor glider being developed currently by Brian Carpenter.
>
>
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> > From: Vince <vhhomer@>
>
> > To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:35 PM
>
> > Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group LSA Rule Question
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > The LSA requirements state, "single engine and fixed pitch or ground adjustable propeller." Does the use of the singular term, "propeller," limit a builder to only one?
>
> >
>
> > Does anyone have an opinion, or better yet, an official ruling on the use of one engine and two propellers either in the contra-rotating or or separate configuration like the Wright Brothers Flyer?
>
> >
>
I'm a two hour flight in my LSA from Corning,
and very occassionally fly down there to get Brian (who is a VERY experienced Rotax and LSA guy) work on my plane.
Don't know if it's practical but I'd love to see a single engine driving counter rotating front and back props.
And a way to disingauge one prop for low fuel use cruising.
Also totally blue sky.
Interesting, that a private pilot can fly even a true multiengine EXPERIMENTAL without a multiengine rating, though.
Alex
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Homer <vhhomer@...> wrote:
>
>
> Alex, Thanks for the reply. I used to work wirth Brian and live about 30 miles from his home aitport. I will have to stop by there and see the airplane. I have read some about it and it's quite a project. The reason for this inquiry is I am looking at a future project involving a Custer Channel wing aircraft using a Titan, or similar, fuselage as a start and single engine driving two props, one in each channel. Just blue sky at this point.
>
> Vince Homer
>
> (760) 375-4554
>
> (626) 497-8735 (C)
>
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> From: acensor@...
> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 01:32:34 +0000
> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group LSA Rule Question
>
>
> Hi Vince,
>
>
>
> See ---
>
> http://www.electricmotorglider.com/index.html
>
> -- where it reads
>
> "FAA regulations do not require a pilot to possess a multiengine rating when flying a single place [mulitengine] experimental aircraft. A multiengine rating would be required for the carriage of passengers."
>
>
>
> In short, you could fly a two propeller _single_ engine two propeller experimental single seat aircraft with a sport pilot license as long as it complied with the rest of the LSA definition.
>
>
>
> By the way, that link is a very interesting site about a two prop electric powered motor glider being developed currently by Brian Carpenter.
>
>
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> > From: Vince <vhhomer@>
>
> > To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:35 PM
>
> > Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group LSA Rule Question
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > The LSA requirements state, "single engine and fixed pitch or ground adjustable propeller." Does the use of the singular term, "propeller," limit a builder to only one?
>
> >
>
> > Does anyone have an opinion, or better yet, an official ruling on the use of one engine and two propellers either in the contra-rotating or or separate configuration like the Wright Brothers Flyer?
>
> >
>
Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:28 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Vincent Homer" vhhomer
Alex, My phone number is below. I just bought a Sonex with a Jab 3300. Haven't taken possession of it yet and when I do i have to get a few hours of dual in it to satisfy the insurance people. For now I will be based at the Oroville (KOVE) airport and eventually at Paradise (CA92), which is closer to where I live (Magalia). If you fly into Paradise I could pick you up. It's a private field, but I can get the OK for you to land there. I'd love to talk blue sky projects as I have many and am always interested in what others are dreaming up. I have attached some photos of a 1/4 scale model of the CCW project that is based on a Titan II. Also included one of a 3/4 scale P-39 mock-up that's hanging in my shop and one of my rolling test stand that has a variable ratio reduction unit driving the prop.
Vince Homer
(760) 375-4554
(626) 497-8735 (C)
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
From: acensor@fastmail.fm
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 05:01:38 +0000
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group LSA Rule Question
Send me your phone number as a private reply if you'd like to sometime meet face to face just for fun.
I'm a two hour flight in my LSA from Corning,
and very occassionally fly down there to get Brian (who is a VERY experienced Rotax and LSA guy) work on my plane.
Don't know if it's practical but I'd love to see a single engine driving counter rotating front and back props.
And a way to disingauge one prop for low fuel use cruising.
Also totally blue sky.
Interesting, that a private pilot can fly even a true multiengine EXPERIMENTAL without a multiengine rating, though.
Alex
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Homer <vhhomer@...> wrote:
>
>
> Alex, Thanks for the reply. I used to work wirth Brian and live about 30 miles from his home aitport. I will have to stop by there and see the airplane. I have read some about it and it's quite a project. The reason for this inquiry is I am looking at a future project involving a Custer Channel wing aircraft using a Titan, or similar, fuselage as a start and single engine driving two props, one in each channel. Just blue sky at this point.
>
> Vince Homer
>
> (760) 375-4554
>
> (626) 497-8735 (C)
>
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> From: acensor@...
> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 01:32:34 +0000
> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group LSA Rule Question
>
>
> Hi Vince,
>
>
>
> See ---
>
> http://www.electricmotorglider.com/index.html
>
> -- where it reads
>
> "FAA regulations do not require a pilot to possess a multiengine rating when flying a single place [mulitengine] experimental aircraft. A multiengine rating would be required for the carriage of passengers."
>
>
>
> In short, you could fly a two propeller _single_ engine two propeller experimental single seat aircraft with a sport pilot license as long as it complied with the rest of the LSA definition.
>
>
>
> By the way, that link is a very interesting site about a two prop electric powered motor glider being developed currently by Brian Carpenter.
>
>
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> > From: Vince <vhhomer@>
>
> > To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:35 PM
>
> > Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group LSA Rule Question
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > The LSA requirements state, "single engine and fixed pitch or ground adjustable propeller." Does the use of the singular term, "propeller," limit a builder to only one?
>
> >
>
> > Does anyone have an opinion, or better yet, an official ruling on the use of one engine and two propellers either in the contra-rotating or or separate configuration like the Wright Brothers Flyer?
>
> >
>
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Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:44 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Vince" vhhomer
I forgot that photos don't show up on the message board.
Vince Homer
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Homer <vhhomer@...> wrote:
>
>
> Alex, My phone number is below. I just bought a Sonex with a Jab 3300. Haven't taken possession of it yet and when I do i have to get a few hours of dual in it to satisfy the insurance people. For now I will be based at the Oroville (KOVE) airport and eventually at Paradise (CA92), which is closer to where I live (Magalia). If you fly into Paradise I could pick you up. It's a private field, but I can get the OK for you to land there. I'd love to talk blue sky projects as I have many and am always interested in what others are dreaming up. I have attached some photos of a 1/4 scale model of the CCW project that is based on a Titan II. Also included one of a 3/4 scale P-39 mock-up that's hanging in my shop and one of my rolling test stand that has a variable ratio reduction unit driving the prop.
>
> Vince Homer
>
> (760) 375-4554
>
> (626) 497-8735 (C)
>
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> From: acensor@...
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 05:01:38 +0000
> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group LSA Rule Question
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Send me your phone number as a private reply if you'd like to sometime meet face to face just for fun.
>
> I'm a two hour flight in my LSA from Corning,
>
> and very occassionally fly down there to get Brian (who is a VERY experienced Rotax and LSA guy) work on my plane.
>
>
>
> Don't know if it's practical but I'd love to see a single engine driving counter rotating front and back props.
>
> And a way to disingauge one prop for low fuel use cruising.
>
> Also totally blue sky.
>
>
>
> Interesting, that a private pilot can fly even a true multiengine EXPERIMENTAL without a multiengine rating, though.
>
>
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Homer <vhhomer@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Alex, Thanks for the reply. I used to work wirth Brian and live about 30 miles from his home aitport. I will have to stop by there and see the airplane. I have read some about it and it's quite a project. The reason for this inquiry is I am looking at a future project involving a Custer Channel wing aircraft using a Titan, or similar, fuselage as a start and single engine driving two props, one in each channel. Just blue sky at this point.
>
> >
>
> > Vince Homer
>
> >
>
> > (760) 375-4554
>
> >
>
> > (626) 497-8735 (C)
>
> >
>
> > To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
>
> > From: acensor@
>
> > Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 01:32:34 +0000
>
> > Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group LSA Rule Question
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Hi Vince,
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > See ---
>
> >
>
> > http://www.electricmotorglider.com/index.html
>
> >
>
> > -- where it reads
>
> >
>
> > "FAA regulations do not require a pilot to possess a multiengine rating when flying a single place [mulitengine] experimental aircraft. A multiengine rating would be required for the carriage of passengers."
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > In short, you could fly a two propeller _single_ engine two propeller experimental single seat aircraft with a sport pilot license as long as it complied with the rest of the LSA definition.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > By the way, that link is a very interesting site about a two prop electric powered motor glider being developed currently by Brian Carpenter.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Alex
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ________________________________
>
> >
>
> > > From: Vince <vhhomer@>
>
> >
>
> > > To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
>
> >
>
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:35 PM
>
> >
>
> > > Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group LSA Rule Question
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > The LSA requirements state, "single engine and fixed pitch or ground adjustable propeller." Does the use of the singular term, "propeller," limit a builder to only one?
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Does anyone have an opinion, or better yet, an official ruling on the use of one engine and two propellers either in the contra-rotating or or separate configuration like the Wright Brothers Flyer?
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
Vince Homer
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Homer <vhhomer@...> wrote:
>
>
> Alex, My phone number is below. I just bought a Sonex with a Jab 3300. Haven't taken possession of it yet and when I do i have to get a few hours of dual in it to satisfy the insurance people. For now I will be based at the Oroville (KOVE) airport and eventually at Paradise (CA92), which is closer to where I live (Magalia). If you fly into Paradise I could pick you up. It's a private field, but I can get the OK for you to land there. I'd love to talk blue sky projects as I have many and am always interested in what others are dreaming up. I have attached some photos of a 1/4 scale model of the CCW project that is based on a Titan II. Also included one of a 3/4 scale P-39 mock-up that's hanging in my shop and one of my rolling test stand that has a variable ratio reduction unit driving the prop.
>
> Vince Homer
>
> (760) 375-4554
>
> (626) 497-8735 (C)
>
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> From: acensor@...
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 05:01:38 +0000
> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group LSA Rule Question
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Send me your phone number as a private reply if you'd like to sometime meet face to face just for fun.
>
> I'm a two hour flight in my LSA from Corning,
>
> and very occassionally fly down there to get Brian (who is a VERY experienced Rotax and LSA guy) work on my plane.
>
>
>
> Don't know if it's practical but I'd love to see a single engine driving counter rotating front and back props.
>
> And a way to disingauge one prop for low fuel use cruising.
>
> Also totally blue sky.
>
>
>
> Interesting, that a private pilot can fly even a true multiengine EXPERIMENTAL without a multiengine rating, though.
>
>
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Homer <vhhomer@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Alex, Thanks for the reply. I used to work wirth Brian and live about 30 miles from his home aitport. I will have to stop by there and see the airplane. I have read some about it and it's quite a project. The reason for this inquiry is I am looking at a future project involving a Custer Channel wing aircraft using a Titan, or similar, fuselage as a start and single engine driving two props, one in each channel. Just blue sky at this point.
>
> >
>
> > Vince Homer
>
> >
>
> > (760) 375-4554
>
> >
>
> > (626) 497-8735 (C)
>
> >
>
> > To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
>
> > From: acensor@
>
> > Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 01:32:34 +0000
>
> > Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group LSA Rule Question
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Hi Vince,
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > See ---
>
> >
>
> > http://www.electricmotorglider.com/index.html
>
> >
>
> > -- where it reads
>
> >
>
> > "FAA regulations do not require a pilot to possess a multiengine rating when flying a single place [mulitengine] experimental aircraft. A multiengine rating would be required for the carriage of passengers."
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > In short, you could fly a two propeller _single_ engine two propeller experimental single seat aircraft with a sport pilot license as long as it complied with the rest of the LSA definition.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > By the way, that link is a very interesting site about a two prop electric powered motor glider being developed currently by Brian Carpenter.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Alex
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ________________________________
>
> >
>
> > > From: Vince <vhhomer@>
>
> >
>
> > > To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
>
> >
>
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:35 PM
>
> >
>
> > > Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group LSA Rule Question
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > The LSA requirements state, "single engine and fixed pitch or ground adjustable propeller." Does the use of the singular term, "propeller," limit a builder to only one?
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Does anyone have an opinion, or better yet, an official ruling on the use of one engine and two propellers either in the contra-rotating or or separate configuration like the Wright Brothers Flyer?
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
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