Hi Group,
I'd like to trade flying and maintenance issues off line with other Skycatcher enthusiasts. I'm based at 68IS in North Central Illinois.
Click on my name to send me an email.
Here's some photos of my Skycatcher. In a couple of days the N-number will become N900DP. The paperwork required to assign a custom N-number is outrageous!
http://users.foxvalley.net/~dpersyk/skycatcher.htm
Fly safely,
Dennis
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Saturday, July 27, 2013
Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: I need help
Hi Group,
I'm curious about your comment about Skycatcher climb rate. My Skycatcher climbs at about 700 fps at full gross on a day 15 to 20 F degrees above standard atmosphere. This is at about 70 kias, well below Vy, as I find the deck angle at Vy to be very restrictive of forward vision. For the record, that is much better climb performance than my Skyhawk Model K had at full gross.
What LSAs have better actual climb rates?
Fly safely,
Dennis
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "vardonx" wrote:
>
> Yup I goofed and meant max takeoff weight. I disagree that most lsa's cant't actually fly near that weight...the Remos GX flys fine at 1250 lbs in the nice FL sunshine
>
> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Garygaryo@ wrote:
> >
> > Correction. 1320 is max takeoff weight, and not useful load of LSA. Most all will climb at 1,000 ft per minute or better loaded to that limit regardless of the rated useful loads. There are exceptions, like the SkyCatcher.
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE Phone
> >
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: "A. Censor" acensor@
> > To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 14:52:21 GMT+00:00
> > Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: I need help
> >
> > "vardonx" catalina1783@ vardonx
> > ON Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:23 am (PDT) WROTE, IN PART ---
> > >From a useful load perspective it sounds like either the Jabiru J230 or a Kitfox would possibly work, since I believe both were originally spec'd at over 1320 lbs useful load....... <
> >
> > Hi Vardonx,
> >
> > That “1320†you quote isn’t what you present it as.
> > It is not the “useful load†--- it is not even the maximum takeoff weight.
> >
> >
> > If you put 1320 pounds either of those aircraft you’d probably never get off the runway and if you did manage to get off into ground effect you’d be in big trouble.
> >
> > What it that 1320 IS is the “Maximum Gross Takeoff Weight†set by regulation for ANY aircraft to be sport pilot legal.
> > See http://www.sportpilot.org/learn/final_rule_synopsis.html
> >
> > There is one version of the Jabiru J230 that has a useable load of 792 lbs but that one is NOT an LSA... not legal for a sport pilot.
> >
> >
> > The reported useable load for the highest performance version of the LSA Kitfox (with the 100hp Rotax engine) is 552 pounds.
> > That’s less than my Skyranger’s useful load, and unsuitable (even if he/she fit in there) for a 450 pounder to fly in as that would leave about 100 pounds for the instructor plus fuel.
> > I doubt you’ll find any LSA with a useful load of more than about 650 pounds.
> > And as others have pointed out it’s not great, even if you can fit in there, to be flying right near those limits.
> >
> > Alex
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Alex
> >
>
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RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: A starting point
alan, echoing ralph's comments I started flying lessons in a cessna 152 way
back in 1982 but, as so often happens, life got in the way and I never went
back to finish. flash forward 30-years and now, at age 62 (soon to be 63)
I'm about 10-days from my LSA check ride. even though my instructor is
working me pretty hard I love every minute I'm in the air. I can't
encourage you enough to get started on making your dream come true. the
best way to proceed is not to lurk about the airfield...call or stop by and
see if they have a LSA program (not every flight school or field does) and
if they do take a short discovery flight. if you want to own a piper then
by all means train in a tail dragger. but whatever you choose don't
procrastinate. good luck.
'73,
rich, n9dko
Years ago when men cursed and beat the Earth with sticks it was known as
witchcraft. Today it's known as golf!
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Alan, it's never too late to start. I didn't start flying until age 40
(mid-life crisis), and now have been flying for over 26 years. I started
flying R/C models and it progressed to ordering a Kolb Firestar kit in 1986.
I had never built anything before, except airplane models, so it was a
challenge. Needless to say, that Firestar kit has been flying all this time.
Five years ago I bought a Kolb Kolbra. I'm the guy that produced the
"Rushford fly-in" video. I went and got my Sport license to fly it and it
has been a dream come true. I absolutely love flying especially when I can
share it with friends and family. My advice is to pursue your dream and you
will never regret it.
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back in 1982 but, as so often happens, life got in the way and I never went
back to finish. flash forward 30-years and now, at age 62 (soon to be 63)
I'm about 10-days from my LSA check ride. even though my instructor is
working me pretty hard I love every minute I'm in the air. I can't
encourage you enough to get started on making your dream come true. the
best way to proceed is not to lurk about the airfield...call or stop by and
see if they have a LSA program (not every flight school or field does) and
if they do take a short discovery flight. if you want to own a piper then
by all means train in a tail dragger. but whatever you choose don't
procrastinate. good luck.
'73,
rich, n9dko
Years ago when men cursed and beat the Earth with sticks it was known as
witchcraft. Today it's known as golf!
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Alan, it's never too late to start. I didn't start flying until age 40
(mid-life crisis), and now have been flying for over 26 years. I started
flying R/C models and it progressed to ordering a Kolb Firestar kit in 1986.
I had never built anything before, except airplane models, so it was a
challenge. Needless to say, that Firestar kit has been flying all this time.
Five years ago I bought a Kolb Kolbra. I'm the guy that produced the
"Rushford fly-in" video. I went and got my Sport license to fly it and it
has been a dream come true. I absolutely love flying especially when I can
share it with friends and family. My advice is to pursue your dream and you
will never regret it.
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Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: A starting point
Sounds like a plan to me. Start at square one. Don't let the interest go. You will live to regret it. Never stop dreaming.
Now, I have a question: Does anyone out there know an LSA instructor with an aircraft in Kalamazoo/Battle Creek, MI area? I am in need of a BFR. Last instructor I knew who had any time has moved away.
Norm
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" <abartz@...> wrote:
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> Hello everyone. This is my starting point in my adventure towards LSA activity. I have reached the point in my life that either I start this interest now, or let it go. I choose to start!
>
> I know only what I have read in the WIKI sites regarding obtaining a LSA certificate. It seems doable for me. There is an airfield close by and will also be lurking around there to get an idea of how to proceed.
>
> The goal is to own and fly a piper type aircraft. I am very impressed by the Graphite Cub I found at CubCrafters. Most every review I have found liked them too.
>
> So here I am, ready to learn. Hit me with your best advise, or warnings. Hopefully I will be able to contribute something down the road.
>
> Thanks for having me here!
>
> Alan
> Southern California
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Now, I have a question: Does anyone out there know an LSA instructor with an aircraft in Kalamazoo/Battle Creek, MI area? I am in need of a BFR. Last instructor I knew who had any time has moved away.
Norm
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" <abartz@...> wrote:
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> Hello everyone. This is my starting point in my adventure towards LSA activity. I have reached the point in my life that either I start this interest now, or let it go. I choose to start!
>
> I know only what I have read in the WIKI sites regarding obtaining a LSA certificate. It seems doable for me. There is an airfield close by and will also be lurking around there to get an idea of how to proceed.
>
> The goal is to own and fly a piper type aircraft. I am very impressed by the Graphite Cub I found at CubCrafters. Most every review I have found liked them too.
>
> So here I am, ready to learn. Hit me with your best advise, or warnings. Hopefully I will be able to contribute something down the road.
>
> Thanks for having me here!
>
> Alan
> Southern California
>
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Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: A starting point
Alan, it's never too late to start. I didn't start flying until age 40 (mid-life crisis), and now have been flying for over 26 years. I started flying R/C models and it progressed to ordering a Kolb Firestar kit in 1986. I had never built anything before, except airplane models, so it was a challenge. Needless to say, that Firestar kit has been flying all this time. Five years ago I bought a Kolb Kolbra. I'm the guy that produced the "Rushford fly-in" video. I went and got my Sport license to fly it and it has been a dream come true. I absolutely love flying especially when I can share it with friends and family. My advice is to pursue your dream and you will never regret it.
Ralph Burlingame
Kolb Kolbra
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" <abartz@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone. This is my starting point in my adventure towards LSA activity. I have reached the point in my life that either I start this interest now, or let it go. I choose to start!
>
> I know only what I have read in the WIKI sites regarding obtaining a LSA certificate. It seems doable for me. There is an airfield close by and will also be lurking around there to get an idea of how to proceed.
>
> The goal is to own and fly a piper type aircraft. I am very impressed by the Graphite Cub I found at CubCrafters. Most every review I have found liked them too.
>
> So here I am, ready to learn. Hit me with your best advise, or warnings. Hopefully I will be able to contribute something down the road.
>
> Thanks for having me here!
>
> Alan
> Southern California
>
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--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" <abartz@...> wrote:
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> Hello everyone. This is my starting point in my adventure towards LSA activity. I have reached the point in my life that either I start this interest now, or let it go. I choose to start!
>
> I know only what I have read in the WIKI sites regarding obtaining a LSA certificate. It seems doable for me. There is an airfield close by and will also be lurking around there to get an idea of how to proceed.
>
> The goal is to own and fly a piper type aircraft. I am very impressed by the Graphite Cub I found at CubCrafters. Most every review I have found liked them too.
>
> So here I am, ready to learn. Hit me with your best advise, or warnings. Hopefully I will be able to contribute something down the road.
>
> Thanks for having me here!
>
> Alan
> Southern California
>
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Friday, July 26, 2013
Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: A starting point
Hello Alan,
Congratulations on not giving up on a life-long dream to fly. I became interested in LSAs after flying standard certfied aircraft for many years. The new designs I was seeing were a breath of fresh air and didn't disappoint performance wise as well. The retro movement is like-wise just as cool.
My best advice for you would be to find all of the LSA flight schools in the area (S. CA should have a lot) and fly with all of them by taking Intro or Discovery Flights. Unfortunately you might not be able to find the exact aircraft you want to train in but they are all applicable for the most part. Don't forget to take a logbook (available online) and ask each instructor log your flight, this is valuable time. This will be a great way to find the instructor that fits you best because you will be spending a lot of time with him or her.
Best of luck to you in your Sport Pilot, flying has been very rewarding to me personally.
Tom "TC" Freeman
Flight Instructor (North Carolina)
Author~"How to Save Money on Flight Training" (Amazon)
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" <abartz@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone. This is my starting point in my adventure towards LSA activity. I have reached the point in my life that either I start this interest now, or let it go. I choose to start!
>
> I know only what I have read in the WIKI sites regarding obtaining a LSA certificate. It seems doable for me. There is an airfield close by and will also be lurking around there to get an idea of how to proceed.
>
> The goal is to own and fly a piper type aircraft. I am very impressed by the Graphite Cub I found at CubCrafters. Most every review I have found liked them too.
>
> So here I am, ready to learn. Hit me with your best advise, or warnings. Hopefully I will be able to contribute something down the road.
>
> Thanks for having me here!
>
> Alan
> Southern California
>
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Congratulations on not giving up on a life-long dream to fly. I became interested in LSAs after flying standard certfied aircraft for many years. The new designs I was seeing were a breath of fresh air and didn't disappoint performance wise as well. The retro movement is like-wise just as cool.
My best advice for you would be to find all of the LSA flight schools in the area (S. CA should have a lot) and fly with all of them by taking Intro or Discovery Flights. Unfortunately you might not be able to find the exact aircraft you want to train in but they are all applicable for the most part. Don't forget to take a logbook (available online) and ask each instructor log your flight, this is valuable time. This will be a great way to find the instructor that fits you best because you will be spending a lot of time with him or her.
Best of luck to you in your Sport Pilot, flying has been very rewarding to me personally.
Tom "TC" Freeman
Flight Instructor (North Carolina)
Author~"How to Save Money on Flight Training" (Amazon)
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" <abartz@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone. This is my starting point in my adventure towards LSA activity. I have reached the point in my life that either I start this interest now, or let it go. I choose to start!
>
> I know only what I have read in the WIKI sites regarding obtaining a LSA certificate. It seems doable for me. There is an airfield close by and will also be lurking around there to get an idea of how to proceed.
>
> The goal is to own and fly a piper type aircraft. I am very impressed by the Graphite Cub I found at CubCrafters. Most every review I have found liked them too.
>
> So here I am, ready to learn. Hit me with your best advise, or warnings. Hopefully I will be able to contribute something down the road.
>
> Thanks for having me here!
>
> Alan
> Southern California
>
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RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group A starting point
Thanks Jerry, will do!
On Jul 26, 2013 11:57 AM, "Jerry" <jself1@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
Alan,
Go to this web site for good accurate information. http://www.sportpilot.org/
Jerry in NC
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Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 11:17 AM
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group A starting point
Hello everyone. This is my starting point in my adventure towards LSA activity. I have reached the point in my life that either I start this interest now, or let it go. I choose to start!
I know only what I have read in the WIKI sites regarding obtaining a LSA certificate. It seems doable for me. There is an airfield close by and will also be lurking around there to get an idea of how to proceed.
The goal is to own and fly a piper type aircraft. I am very impressed by the Graphite Cub I found at CubCrafters. Most every review I have found liked them too.
So here I am, ready to learn. Hit me with your best advise, or warnings. Hopefully I will be able to contribute something down the road.
Thanks for having me here!
Alan
Southern California
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