Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: I need help

Hi Group,

I'm curious about your comment about Skycatcher climb rate.  My Skycatcher climbs at about 700 fps at full gross on a day 15 to 20 F degrees above standard atmosphere. This is at about 70 kias, well below Vy, as I find the deck angle at Vy to be very restrictive of forward vision.  For the record, that is much better climb performance than my Skyhawk Model K had at full gross.

What LSAs  have better actual climb rates?

Fly safely,

Dennis

 
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "vardonx" wrote:
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> Yup I goofed and meant max takeoff weight. I disagree that most lsa's cant't actually fly near that weight...the Remos GX flys fine at 1250 lbs in the nice FL sunshine
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> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Garygaryo@ wrote:
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> > Correction. 1320 is max takeoff weight, and not useful load of LSA. Most all will climb at 1,000 ft per minute or better loaded to that limit regardless of the rated useful loads. There are exceptions, like the SkyCatcher.
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> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE Phone
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> > -----Original message-----
> > From: "A. Censor" acensor@
> > To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 14:52:21 GMT+00:00
> > Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: I need help
> >
> > "vardonx" catalina1783@ vardonx
> > ON Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:23 am (PDT) WROTE, IN PART ---
> > >From a useful load perspective it sounds like either the Jabiru J230 or a Kitfox would possibly work, since I believe both were originally spec'd at over 1320 lbs useful load....... <
> >
> > Hi Vardonx,
> >
> > That “1320” you quote isn’t what you present it as.
> > It is not the “useful load” --- it is not even the maximum takeoff weight.
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> > If you put 1320 pounds either of those aircraft you’d probably never get off the runway and if you did manage to get off into ground effect you’d be in big trouble.
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> > What it that 1320 IS is the “Maximum Gross Takeoff Weight” set by regulation for ANY aircraft to be sport pilot legal.
> > See http://www.sportpilot.org/learn/final_rule_synopsis.html
> >
> > There is one version of the Jabiru J230 that has a useable load of 792 lbs but that one is NOT an LSA... not legal for a sport pilot.
> >
> >
> > The reported useable load for the highest performance version of the LSA Kitfox (with the 100hp Rotax engine) is 552 pounds.
> > That’s less than my Skyranger’s useful load, and unsuitable (even if he/she fit in there) for a 450 pounder to fly in as that would leave about 100 pounds for the instructor plus fuel.
> > I doubt you’ll find any LSA with a useful load of more than about 650 pounds.
> > And as others have pointed out it’s not great, even if you can fit in there, to be flying right near those limits.
> >
> > Alex
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> > Alex
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