Oh, come on guys. Stop giving him a hard time. We all know that general coordination training maneuvers are generally (if incorrectly) called dutch rolls and we know all exactly what he is talking about. Congratulate him on learning to correctly use a rudder (which so many pilots don't). Don't give him a hard time about his syntax. He's a student. Welcome him into the aviation fold and save the vocabulary lesson for English class.
Helen
Helen
abart,
here is the definition of a dutch roll:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_roll>
here is the definition of a barrel roll:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_roll>
Generally, you should not be learning either maneuver while learning to fly.
The dutch roll is a stability problem with air planes
The barrel roll is a aerobatic maneuver that most air planes are not safe to
perform (most air planes (other than stunt planes) have prohibitions on
maneuvers that bring the wings and/or nose more than 60 degrees from horizontal.)
R. Williams
---------- Original Message -----------
From: <abartz@gmail.com>
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 16 Oct 2013 20:57:43 -0700
Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group RE: A starting point
> Okay, first I need to correct my previous post. I learned Dutch rolls,
> not Barrel rolls. So, along with my flight lessons, my terminology
> is improving as well.
>
> I have 9 hours under my belt at this point, and feel pretty
> comfortable in all the maneuvers learned so far. I find that landing
> the plane is still an anxious moment for me. In fact, I dread that
> moment. Maybe Im over-thinking the process. Seems like a lot of
> information being processed at the same time. We did some touch and
> goes today which seem to help Hopefully by the time I am ready to
> solo, it clicks.
>
> Alan
> So Cal
> Hemet Ryan Flight School
> SkyCatcher 162
>
> ---In sport_aircraft@yahoogroups.com, <rk911@...> wrote:
>
> alan, my first attempt at taxiing was something for the books. it was
> not
pretty. don't know what you're training in but once you get the
> hang of it
it'll be second nature to you. just remember not to taxi
> faster than a
brisk walk and be sure to orient the ailerons properly
> for the wind. you'll
be fine. I still remember the first time I was
> allowed to take off...what a
rush!
>
> '73,
> rich, n9dko
> If you think women are the weaker sex just try pulling the blankets
> back to
your side.
_________________________________
Today was my
> second time up. The week dragged by with much anticipation for
today.
> I read my student book cover to cover twice, took notes for
questions
> I wanted to ask, filled in all the blanks according to the
aircraft I
> am studying in, and went through every normal procedure in my
head
> for the week.
>
> This morning I got to do the pre flight, taxi, run-up, and TAKE-OFF
> under my
own control. What a rush!
>
> Once up I learned rudder and aileron control to make 30 degree turns,
> and
barrel maneuvers while pointed at a fixed point to keep the plane
> in line.
This took a few tries, but then I was able to coordinate the
> foot pedals
with the stick and kept it pointing straight through the
> maneuver.
The time flew by (quite literally) and before I knew it, I
> was instructed to
head back to the airport and make our decent. My
> instructor took over and
brought us in for the final and landing.
>
> I am looking forward to next week! I hope I can at least follow the
> yellow
line by then while taxiing. That seems the hardest part so far.
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here is the definition of a dutch roll:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_roll>
here is the definition of a barrel roll:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_roll>
Generally, you should not be learning either maneuver while learning to fly.
The dutch roll is a stability problem with air planes
The barrel roll is a aerobatic maneuver that most air planes are not safe to
perform (most air planes (other than stunt planes) have prohibitions on
maneuvers that bring the wings and/or nose more than 60 degrees from horizontal.)
R. Williams
---------- Original Message -----------
From: <abartz@gmail.com>
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 16 Oct 2013 20:57:43 -0700
Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group RE: A starting point
> Okay, first I need to correct my previous post. I learned Dutch rolls,
> not Barrel rolls. So, along with my flight lessons, my terminology
> is improving as well.
>
> I have 9 hours under my belt at this point, and feel pretty
> comfortable in all the maneuvers learned so far. I find that landing
> the plane is still an anxious moment for me. In fact, I dread that
> moment. Maybe Im over-thinking the process. Seems like a lot of
> information being processed at the same time. We did some touch and
> goes today which seem to help Hopefully by the time I am ready to
> solo, it clicks.
>
> Alan
> So Cal
> Hemet Ryan Flight School
> SkyCatcher 162
>
> ---In sport_aircraft@yahoogroups.com, <rk911@...> wrote:
>
> alan, my first attempt at taxiing was something for the books. it was
> not
pretty. don't know what you're training in but once you get the
> hang of it
it'll be second nature to you. just remember not to taxi
> faster than a
brisk walk and be sure to orient the ailerons properly
> for the wind. you'll
be fine. I still remember the first time I was
> allowed to take off...what a
rush!
>
> '73,
> rich, n9dko
> If you think women are the weaker sex just try pulling the blankets
> back to
your side.
_________________________________
Today was my
> second time up. The week dragged by with much anticipation for
today.
> I read my student book cover to cover twice, took notes for
questions
> I wanted to ask, filled in all the blanks according to the
aircraft I
> am studying in, and went through every normal procedure in my
head
> for the week.
>
> This morning I got to do the pre flight, taxi, run-up, and TAKE-OFF
> under my
own control. What a rush!
>
> Once up I learned rudder and aileron control to make 30 degree turns,
> and
barrel maneuvers while pointed at a fixed point to keep the plane
> in line.
This took a few tries, but then I was able to coordinate the
> foot pedals
with the stick and kept it pointing straight through the
> maneuver.
The time flew by (quite literally) and before I knew it, I
> was instructed to
head back to the airport and make our decent. My
> instructor took over and
brought us in for the final and landing.
>
> I am looking forward to next week! I hope I can at least follow the
> yellow
line by then while taxiing. That seems the hardest part so far.
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