Have you found even one actual expert who has any question about what FAR 1.1 means? It's really pretty clear. Taxiing to go fly counts. Taxiing to do a maintenance run, simply move the airplane on the ramp, or taxiing just to practice taxiing, does not. If you call FSDO, The FAA in OKC, or AOPA legal department, and find even one person who disagrees with what I just said, please jot their name down. It isn't going to happen.
If you really want to stir the pot, start on PIC time. Having 2 people logging PIC is quite common, but a FSDO ops guy gave me a scenario where 3 pilots could all be logging PIC at the same time. LOL.
Jim
From: Lyn Wagner
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Logging taxi time?
This is like nost rules and laws, depends on which expert you ask. As far as log books they are only as accurate as the honesty of the individual keeping them. It might be a stretch for me to log P51 time but there is no proof needed for your log other than your honesty.
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Lyn Wagner
Taylorcraft BC12-D
N96290
LXN
Lyn Wagner
Taylorcraft BC12-D
N96290
LXN
From: circicirci <acensor@fastmail.fm>
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Logging taxi time?
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Logging taxi time?
Helen wrote --
Re: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Logging taxi time?
FAR 1.1 Flight Time
(1) Pilot time that commences when an aircraft moves under its own power for the purpose of flight and ends when the aircraft comes to rest after landing.
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A side/footnote complementing Helen`s note above:
Some time ago I was talking to a charter pilot who confirmed that, and mentioned that charter operators sometimes don`t like the fact that their pilots HAVE to log every minute of time that the plane is taxiing, or worse yet, sitting on the ground with engine running for half hour waiting for takeoff clearance, as flight time because there are regulations limiting the number of hours their pilots can fly.
And I suppose, getting back to Roberto`s original question:
I suppose one COULD take it as withing the meaning of taxiing for `purpose of flight` in his case... As in fact ultimately all the taxiing he is talking about doing IS for the purpose of [future] flight. It`s not for any OTHER purpose.
If I were in his situation and felt it to my benefit to have more hours I would feel I was within the letter and spirit of the regs to log that as PIC flight time LOCAL. Experience at the controls is experience at the controls and IMO should be logged. The only odd thing would be in his logbook it would show the number of landings per entry as zero.
Alex
Re: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Logging taxi time?
FAR 1.1 Flight Time
(1) Pilot time that commences when an aircraft moves under its own power for the purpose of flight and ends when the aircraft comes to rest after landing.
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A side/footnote complementing Helen`s note above:
Some time ago I was talking to a charter pilot who confirmed that, and mentioned that charter operators sometimes don`t like the fact that their pilots HAVE to log every minute of time that the plane is taxiing, or worse yet, sitting on the ground with engine running for half hour waiting for takeoff clearance, as flight time because there are regulations limiting the number of hours their pilots can fly.
And I suppose, getting back to Roberto`s original question:
I suppose one COULD take it as withing the meaning of taxiing for `purpose of flight` in his case... As in fact ultimately all the taxiing he is talking about doing IS for the purpose of [future] flight. It`s not for any OTHER purpose.
If I were in his situation and felt it to my benefit to have more hours I would feel I was within the letter and spirit of the regs to log that as PIC flight time LOCAL. Experience at the controls is experience at the controls and IMO should be logged. The only odd thing would be in his logbook it would show the number of landings per entry as zero.
Alex
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