Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Logging taxi time?



I would suggest you call FSDO then, and ask their opinion.
 
From: Lyle Cox
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:36 AM
Subject: RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Logging taxi time?
 
 

But…

FAR Part 61.51 describes what is loggable time.

 Logging pilot-in-command flight time. (1) A sport, recreational, private, commercial, or airline transport pilot may log pilot in command flight time for flights-

(i) When the pilot is the sole manipulator of the controls of an aircraft for which the pilot is rated, or has sport pilot privileges for that category and class of aircraft, if the aircraft class rating is appropriate;

(ii) When the pilot is the sole occupant in the aircraft;

It appears that whenever he is manipulating the controls as the sole maniupulator, OR is the sole occupant (which he said he would be), that would be time that could be logged as PIC.

From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Bair
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 10:08 AM
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Logging taxi time?

 

My point is, when we are giving advice, and people are electing to take or not take that advice, it's nice to know what the basis for the advice is.  What experience specifically would give a person confidence that the experience is a valid basis for the advice given?  To simply say "experience" is to basically say, "I'm just pulling this info out of my ass because it sounds good to me."    I know it would be a really cheap and handy way to build flight time, but in this case, I also know what the FARs say.  Does just sitting in the airplane with the engine running ever count as flight time?  Does it ever NOT count as flight time?    Can you give some examples of both, or in your experience does an engine running always count as flight time? 

Jim

From: Lyle Cox

Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:12 AM

Subject: RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Logging taxi time?

 

My basis is experience.

From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Bair
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 11:06 PM
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Logging taxi time?

 

And your basis for this comment is......?  Like, can you cite a legal source?  An FAR, for example.  

Jim

From: Lyle Cox

Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 12:50 PM

Subject: RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Logging taxi time?

 

Let's put it this way………if you have an accident during this taxi time, both your insurance and the FAA will say you were "flying".  I'd log it and note it in the comment section.

From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rob_waltman
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 11:10 AM
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Logging taxi time?

 

Sorry, this is not LSA specific, but I hope I'll get some knowledgeable answers.
I hold a private pilot certificate, and will be flying a Kitfox experimental under LSA rules.
Both the Kitfox and I are being put back into service after a long hiatus. I have a current BFR and tailwheel endorsement.
The airplane had its annual inspection 10 days ago, and I have been taking lessons in Cubs, Champs and a Kitfox-like Aerotek.
I decided I will not try to fly it until I have several hours of taxi testing, to the point that I feel comfortable "driving" it on the ground.
My question is, can/should I log this taxi hours as PIC time? On one hand, this is not flying. On the other, I am gaining proficiency in the ground handling of an aircraft that has a reputation for being very sensitive to control inputs.

Thanks,

Roberto.



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