Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Logging taxi time?

Note the words "for flights" in the PIC def.

Helen

On 8/8/2012 8:55 PM, Richard Williams wrote:
> Fellows,
>
> Given the recently posted definitions, it seems that flight time and PIC time
> are different.
>
> Now, I used to only log flight time, but; according to the fars, I could (and
> should) log PIC time.
>
> R. Williams
>
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> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From: Errol Roberts <errolplane@yahoo.com>
> To: "Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com" <Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 09:59:37 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Logging taxi time?
>
>> Excerpt from FAR part 1
>> Flight time means:(1) Pilot time that commences when an aircraft
>> moves under its own power for the purpose of flight and ends when the
>> aircraft comes to rest after landing; or
>> (2) For a glider without self-launch capability, pilot time that
>> commences when the glider is towed for the purpose of flight and ends
>> when the glider comes to rest after landing.
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Lyle Cox <LyleCox@funaerosports.com>
>> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2012 7:36 AM
>> Subject: RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Logging taxi time?
>>
>>
>> Just curious, Jim. Do you log your taxi time to the runway and
>> include the takeoff roll and landing roll, then the taxi back to the
>> hangar? Or do you log wheels up to wheels down? Years ago, and I
>> mean years ago, flight time was logged as flight time..wheels up to
>> wheels down. Now it is considered engine start to engine shutdown.
>> I know, don't ask me about gliders…..lol.
>> From:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lyle Cox Sent:
>> Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:13 AM To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Logging taxi time?
>> My basis is experience. From:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Bair Sent:
>> Tuesday, August 07, 2012 11:06 PM To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Logging taxi time?
>> And your basis for this comment is......? Like, can you cite a legal
>> source? An FAR, for example. Jim From:Lyle Cox Sent:Tuesday,
>> August 07, 2012 12:50 PM To:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject:RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Logging taxi time?
>> Let's put it this way………if you have an accident during this
>> taxi time, both your insurance and the FAA will say you were
>> "flying". I'd log it and note it in the comment section.
>> From:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rob_waltman Sent:
>> Tuesday, August 07, 2012 11:10 AM To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Logging taxi time? Sorry,
>> this is not LSA specific, but I hope I'll get some knowledgeable answers.
>> I hold a private pilot certificate, and will be flying a Kitfox
>> experimental under LSA rules. Both the Kitfox and I are being put back
>> into service after a long hiatus. I have a current BFR and tailwheel endorsement.
>> The airplane had its annual inspection 10 days ago, and I have been
>> taking lessons in Cubs, Champs and a Kitfox-like Aerotek. I decided I
>> will not try to fly it until I have several hours of taxi testing, to
>> the point that I feel comfortable "driving" it on the ground. My
>> question is, can/should I log this taxi hours as PIC time? On one hand,
>> this is not flying. On the other, I am gaining proficiency in the
>> ground handling of an aircraft that has a reputation for being very
>> sensitive to control inputs.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Roberto.
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