The nice thing is that the dealer in Addison (Dallas) has been great.
And yes, I had permission to buy a plane prior to the show as long as she had control on colors.
Duane
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, palmettoe@... wrote:
>
> Excellent posts Abid, the times they are changing (Bob Dylan). Everything
> changes but change itself!
>
> John
>
>
> In a message dated 1/28/2012 9:51:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> apollonorthamerica@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> BTW, if I could give these print magazines and even airshows some advice,
> it would be that they need to do some of their own marketing to remain
> relevant in future.
> Each of these magazines needs to follow a cloud computing based model
> where its available to any user with a smart phone, any time, any where,
> archives, all reviews, in a searchable database format over the web, every second
> of every day. They need to do more reviews, more hands on flying, writing
> subjective handling characteristics, making videos attached to their web
> based articles so a reader can not only see the words and static pictures but
> also multi-media.
> People who can afford to buy these aircraft have iPhones, smart phones,
> web access data plans and computers.
> And also, these marketing channels need to market themselves through
> social media marketing and get people interested in airplanes and flying.
> I know I started breaking everything that had an engine in it that my
> family owned sitting in Pakistan when I was 13 years old to try and make
> airplane like things out of them because I was reading RC magazines and airplane
> magazines from the US (the media of the 80's). I as a kid used to cherish
> and wait for the day my US magazines would arrive so I could get new ideas,
> new inspiration. That's how I started.
>
> Today's 40 and below generation ... they don't wait for any of that stuff.
> They want it and get it now over the web on smart devices, in searchable
> formats. To guide their attention to flying and machines is going to require
> a paradigm shift by the industry as a whole or they will become as
> irrelevant as Kodak has become to digital photography and media because their
> leadership lacked vision to see the future and let a great American icon known
> the world over become a pathetic casualty.
>
> Abid
>
> --- In _Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com) , "apollonorthamerica" <apollonorthamerica@> wrote:
> >
> > BTW, the biggest, most effective and cheapest tools we have to sell
> Revos that has proven sales numbers behind it are:
> > 1) Website
> > 2) E-mail
> > 3) Follow-up
> >
> > Airshows are near the bottom of the list and magazine ads are even
> further down. We get more action from $50 ads placed on Barnstormers.com than
> all magazines combined.
> >
> > I have let Evolution Trikes go to the hands of my partners and stepped
> back. We have not seriously tried social media marketing or other cloud
> computing based marketing solutions but I will, in my next venture and I think
> that will have a lot better ROI than any print ads or airshows. The days of
> marketing or product information getting to people by magazine ads and to
> a lesser degree airshows is over. I am not going to dump money in things
> that are going to go the way of dinosaurs.
> >
> > But Sebring Expo is one show, I would go to every year as it stands now.
> > 1) Its 2 hours from where i am
> > 2) Its reasonably priced for a booth ($600)
> >
> > But even for Sebring Expo, once you combine the man hours missed,
> travel, hotel and plain tiredness, the cost runs up into the $8k range for us
> easily.
> >
> > Sun N Fun is even closer 40 minutes. The cost there runs into $10k
> >
> > Oshkosh ... forget it. The cost for us of doing that show is closer to
> $18000.00 and that show sucks, and I mean sucks for trikes and they seem to
> not give 2 hoots about it either.
> >
> > Abid
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In _Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com) , "apollonorthamerica" <apollonorthamerica@> wrote:
> > >
> > > You hardly ever sell at an airshow itself.
> > > That barely happens.
> > > In fact going to airshows at least by me in blunt direct terms is
> flushing money down the drain or close anyway. And I started Evolution Trikes,
> that company that the gentleman was raving about.
> > > We go to these shows just because of the fear that if we don't people
> may start talking about us not being in business or having too many
> financial difficulties etc.
> > > You sell months after the show, to people you didn't spend much time
> with at the show. That's the God's honest truth.
> > >
> > > The six sales he mentioned in a month for Revos (actually they were 5
> not 6) had absolutely zero to do directly with Sebring Expo. Its just the
> occasion 2 of the people who we had been working with for 3 months+ used to
> show up and close the deal. 3 of the orders were already taken and nothing
> to do with any airshow or magazine ad whatsoever. It was a lot of
> babysitting customers through hard work and sales process to part with their hard
> earned money and were customer referrals from our other customers. It wasn't
> a flashy magazine ad. It wasn't an airshow with big banners. It was some
> customer sticking up for us and guiding people to us for sales for free and
> us working our butts off and answering questions and more questions and more
> questions over and over and then convincing them to come fly the machine
> from as far away as Israel to make those sales. That's how hard that is. I
> wish it was as easy as doing marketing on an airshow and boom, you got 5
> sales. That w ould be really easy. Its not that easy.
> > >
> > > Abid
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In _Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com) , palmettoe@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I agree Helen, and I was waiting on you to comment, been there done
> that
> > > > and waited weeks on end for results. My point was, bad WX, poor
> economy, too
> > > > close to Sun N Fun and other events when WX is more favorable.
> > > >
> > > > Smart buyers check with their spouses first...
> > > >
> > > > Or, if they, the smart buyers, are the primary breadwinner and
> decision
> > > > maker, "kiss them goodbye" lol. It is a remarkable event when a good
> > > > salesperson and rep spends hours upon hours with a potential
> customer including a
> > > > demo flight only to hear "I gotta check with so and so and maybe
> I'll get
> > > > back to you". Makes one wonder why they don't discuss the possible
> purchase of
> > > > an A/C before the free ride. Anyway, everyone I've discussed this
> problem
> > > > with agrees with the odds are very poor that a sale is the result of
> time
> > > > spent, especially at an event such as Sebring given all the negative
> factors
> > > > I mentioned earlier.
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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