Wednesday, March 31, 2010

Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Fly-in



Yeah, I'd love to see one of those really cool Excaliburs.  I hope there is one at your show??
 
Bob

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Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Fly-in
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Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 11:47 AM

 
If you are near central Florida on May 8th drop in and visit the Florida Flying Gator's Spring Fly-in
http://flyinggators .com/news/ spring.htm

All aircraft welcome to fly in.

Rex
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RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Photos from flying Lake Powell Area



Those are of course terrific. I would hope to get there someday myself, but isn't there restrictions as to where you can fly in the canyon? I always thought there was. If so is there a special map you can use?
 
 

   Gary O.
 "Mitfield"

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This weekend I was in Page, Arizona with Dave Simmons who flys a Rotax 503 Challenger out of there. Here are some photos from the trip, the video came out exceptional and I'm in the process of editing it now.

http://www.emuvideo.com/images/trike/page_fav/

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This weekend I was in Page, Arizona with Dave Simmons who flys a Rotax 503 Challenger out of there. Here are some photos from the trip, the video came out exceptional and I'm in the process of editing it now.

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Tuesday, March 30, 2010

Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Lifted index, was: Maxpro Battery monitor



I looked up the Wikipedia explanation of the Richardson number. After reading it I feel like my lobotomy is now complete. Yikes. It's a pretty map though and I'm pretty sure red is bad.
 
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Have you looked at this Turb map?
http://www.wunderground.com/Aviation_Maps/Turbulence/FL25-12.html#a_topad

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I like this one even though I don't know what a Richardson Number is. (I'll look it up, but this map makes it pretty clear where the turbulence can be expected).
 
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Have you looked at this Turb map?
http://www.wunderground.com/Aviation_Maps/Turbulence/FL25-12.html#a_topad

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It doesn't appear to agree with the government ones. I sure like the graphics though.
 
 
The new ADDS ones come closer and are nice to look at also:
 
 
Thanks for the link. You can never have enough information when it comes to weather, it seems.

   Gary O.
 "Mitfield"

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Have you looked at this Turb map?
http://www.wunderground.com/Aviation_Maps/Turbulence/FL25-12.html#a_topad

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Have you looked at this Turb map?
http://www.wunderground.com/Aviation_Maps/Turbulence/FL25-12.html#a_topad

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Richard: I had studied that map and had added it to my shortcuts even though I find the presentation a little puzzling. It seems that the numbers on the map describe areas with a particular lifted index and if I remember right the larger the number the less likely there will be unstable air in any given area. But I can't figure out the correlation between the numbers and the color-shaded areas (or what the color-shaded areas intend to represent). (It would be nice if Unisys would add a legend to this page. I've read the info on their web site but I don't find any discussion of this specific upper air map to describe what it intends to show.) Looking at the 12Z 3/29 map for my area (Savannah, GA and Hilton Head SC) the area is deep purple and there is a "2" very near our location. We just had a rain system pass through here. Do the colors designate moisture content in the air mass? or perhaps temperatures at a specific altitude? Thanks.
 
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Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Lifted index, was: Maxpro Battery monitor

 

Bill,

There are several web sites that list the soaring lift index/soaring index/thermal index.
Most seem to be related to a specific area.
Here is a lifted index that covers the U.S.
I'm not sure this will be of any help.
<http://weather.unisys.com/upper_air/ua_con_lift.html>

Mostly, using the Williams...pdf, I compare the current clouds with the pictures to get an indication of the stability/instability of the air.

R. Williams




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Sent: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:30:03 -0400
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Maxpro Battery monitor

>  
>
>
> I must confess that some of the material (most of the graphs) was a bit over my head. Do you know of a site that depicts the lapse rate on a map? (Or can one go by the Lifted Index?)
>  


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: daleandee
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 4:38 PM
> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Maxpro Battery monitor
>
>  
>
> I had to find the pdf as the link would work directly.
>
> Here's a direct link:
>
> http://williams.best.vwh.net/smxgigpdf/smx2003.pdf
>
> Good reading ... thanks!
>
> Dale
> N28YD
>
> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Williams" <rkwill@...> wrote:
>
> > One way to help determine if the ride is going to be bumpy is:
> > Check the lapse rate. If it is less than 3 degrees per 1000' then
> > things will be quite smooth if it is over 12 degrees per 1000' then
> > things will be wildly rock and roll.
> > Intervening lapse rates will be bumpy but probably not totally rock
> > and roll. <SNIP>
>
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An LSA  LL partnership - is forming in SW. Florida @ Charlotte County Airport, Punta Gorda.  If you are interested, view pictures and information about it:  www.navalairestates.com.
 
(We ran the numbers - and even a 'snow bird' could benefit from this arrangement.) 
 
There is an error on the 'Club' page.  The total will be six members - not ten. And the partnership will be build around my Challenger II (shown on the opeing page of the website.  $2,000 a piece and $50 a month dues.  Hourly rates will be $10 an hour (Plus gas). It burns about 3-4 gallons an hour. If you fly an hour a week - that' less than $100 a month (plus the $50 dues)
 
Thank you,  Bob McDonagh  239-731-5524  C: 633-6407
 
(Later, if the members want - we may complete the mono- float system for the plane. That could be completed - for about an additional $500 apiece)


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Bill,

There are several web sites that list the soaring lift index/soaring index/thermal index.
Most seem to be related to a specific area.
Here is a lifted index that covers the U.S.
I'm not sure this will be of any help.
<http://weather.unisys.com/upper_air/ua_con_lift.html>

Mostly, using the Williams...pdf, I compare the current clouds with the pictures to get an indication of the stability/instability of the air.

R. Williams




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Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Maxpro Battery monitor

>  
>
>
> I must confess that some of the material (most of the graphs) was a bit over my head. Do you know of a site that depicts the lapse rate on a map? (Or can one go by the Lifted Index?)
>  

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: daleandee
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 4:38 PM
> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Maxpro Battery monitor
>
>  
>
> I had to find the pdf as the link would work directly.
>
> Here's a direct link:
>
> http://williams.best.vwh.net/smxgigpdf/smx2003.pdf
>
> Good reading ... thanks!
>
> Dale
> N28YD
>
> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Williams" <rkwill@...> wrote:
>
> > One way to help determine if the ride is going to be bumpy is:
> > Check the lapse rate. If it is less than 3 degrees per 1000' then
> > things will be quite smooth if it is over 12 degrees per 1000' then
> > things will be wildly rock and roll.
> > Intervening lapse rates will be bumpy but probably not totally rock
> > and roll. <SNIP>
>
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I must confess that some of the material (most of the graphs) was a bit over my head. Do you know of a site that depicts the lapse rate on a map? (Or can one go by the Lifted Index?)
 
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I had to find the pdf as the link would work directly.

Here's a direct link:

http://williams.best.vwh.net/smxgigpdf/smx2003.pdf

Good reading ... thanks!

Dale
N28YD

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> One way to help determine if the ride is going to be bumpy is:
> Check the lapse rate. If it is less than 3 degrees per 1000' then
> things will be quite smooth if it is over 12 degrees per 1000' then
> things will be wildly rock and roll.
> Intervening lapse rates will be bumpy but probably not totally rock
> and roll. <SNIP>



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I had to find the pdf as the link would work directly.

Here's a direct link:

http://williams.best.vwh.net/smxgigpdf/smx2003.pdf

Good reading ... thanks!

Dale
N28YD

--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Williams" <rkwill@...> wrote:

> One way to help determine if the ride is going to be bumpy is:
> Check the lapse rate. If it is less than 3 degrees per 1000' then
> things will be quite smooth if it is over 12 degrees per 1000' then
> things will be wildly rock and roll.
> Intervening lapse rates will be bumpy but probably not totally rock
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Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Maxpro Battery monitor



Bill,

One way to help determine if the ride is going to be bumpy is:
Check the lapse rate.
if it is less than 3 degrees per 1000' then things will be quite smooth
if it is over 12 degrees per 1000' then things will be wildly rock and roll.
Intervening lapse rates will be bumpy but probably not totally rock and roll.

The following URL is a PDF file (with plenty of pictures), just for pilots, that describes the conditions for stable and unstable air.
For that nice smooth ride, you want stable air.
<A href=williams.best.vwh.net/smxgigpdf/smx2003.pdf></A>

R. Williams



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>
> [UTF-8?]
> Went out to the airport today after resoldering all the connections and replacing the diodes and the thing is working like a charm. Couldn't go flying (too gusty) but if it behaves at full throttle I will declare this project a success. Thanks to those who helped. (I have mounted the doodad on a cigarette lighter style plug so I can remove it if it should misbehave once airborne. One thing I've discovered about my 2-place airplane (mine's only a little heavier than a LSA) is that it rides like a truck in turbulence (and has no autopilot). If anybody has learned any good techniques (either by examining online weather forecasts or through briefer inquiry) for predetermining how bumpy the ride might be I'd be all ears to hear about them.
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> Went out to the airport today after resoldering all
> the connections and replacing the diodes and the thing is working like a charm.
> Couldn't go flying (too gusty) but if it behaves at full throttle I will declare
> this project a success. Thanks to those who helped. (I have mounted the doodad
> on a cigarette lighter style plug so I can remove it if it should misbehave once
> airborne. One thing I've discovered about my 2-place airplane (mine's only a
> little heavier than a LSA) is that it rides like a truck in turbulence (and has
> no autopilot). If anybody has learned any good techniques (either by examining
> online weather forecasts or through briefer inquiry) for predetermining how
> bumpy the ride might be I'd be all ears to hear about them.


Hey Bill,

Thanks very much for your experimental and development
work on this Low cost battery monitor for us.


Cheers,
Mike


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Went out to the airport today after resoldering all the connections and replacing the diodes and the thing is working like a charm. Couldn't go flying (too gusty) but if it behaves at full throttle I will declare this project a success. Thanks to those who helped. (I have mounted the doodad on a cigarette lighter style plug so I can remove it if it should misbehave once airborne. One thing I've discovered about my 2-place airplane (mine's only a little heavier than a LSA) is that it rides like a truck in turbulence (and has no autopilot). If anybody has learned any good techniques (either by examining online weather forecasts or through briefer inquiry) for predetermining how bumpy the ride might be I'd be all ears to hear about them.
 
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Add a capacitor across the power and ground close to the electrical input. This is called a "bypass" cap and is used to smooth out any nasties outside sources produce. It will absorb and spikes and fill in any valleys in a dirty power supply. You are probably just seeing electrical noise generated by the alternator. Try about 10 to 50 uF cap to start with.

Ed

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It's a Lycoming O-235 and the battery is a Gill sealed 14V battery purchased new 2/1/2010.
 
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What kind of engine is it?
What kind of battery?

Mike

> The diodes drop the monitored voltage by 1.2 volts.
> The device was made to monitor 12v DC batteries. Hence the need to deliberately
> drop the voltage to a range meaningful to the device. When monitoring the
> voltage with a digital meter it shows a steady 12.3 volts DC, but I'm wondering
> if (because of the alternator) the voltage is really in the form of a
> square oscillating wave. The device works 100% right until I kick the alternator
> on. Then it works about 90% of the time as expected, but randomly switches
> briefly to a flashing red display for a second then switches back to steady
> blue. I'm hoping the people who I bought the gadget from can offer a suggestion
> as to what to do if this is the cause.


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Thanks for that Ed. I'll get to Radio Shack next week and get one. (Radio Shack recently closed all of their stores in my area and the nearest one is now 35 miles away!).
 
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Add a capacitor across the power and ground close to the electrical input. This is called a "bypass" cap and is used to smooth out any nasties outside sources produce. It will absorb and spikes and fill in any valleys in a dirty power supply. You are probably just seeing electrical noise generated by the alternator. Try about 10 to 50 uF cap to start with.

Ed

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It's a Lycoming O-235 and the battery is a Gill sealed 14V battery purchased new 2/1/2010.
 
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What kind of engine is it?
What kind of battery?

Mike

> The diodes drop the monitored voltage by 1.2 volts.
> The device was made to monitor 12v DC batteries. Hence the need to deliberately
> drop the voltage to a range meaningful to the device. When monitoring the
> voltage with a digital meter it shows a steady 12.3 volts DC, but I'm wondering
> if (because of the alternator) the voltage is really in the form of a
> square oscillating wave. The device works 100% right until I kick the alternator
> on. Then it works about 90% of the time as expected, but randomly switches
> briefly to a flashing red display for a second then switches back to steady
> blue. I'm hoping the people who I bought the gadget from can offer a suggestion
> as to what to do if this is the cause.


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Add a capacitor across the power and ground close to the electrical input. This is called a "bypass" cap and is used to smooth out any nasties outside sources produce. It will absorb and spikes and fill in any valleys in a dirty power supply. You are probably just seeing electrical noise generated by the alternator. Try about 10 to 50 uF cap to start with.

Ed

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It's a Lycoming O-235 and the battery is a Gill sealed 14V battery purchased new 2/1/2010.
 
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What kind of engine is it?
What kind of battery?

Mike

> The diodes drop the monitored voltage by 1.2 volts.
> The device was made to monitor 12v DC batteries. Hence the need to deliberately
> drop the voltage to a range meaningful to the device. When monitoring the
> voltage with a digital meter it shows a steady 12.3 volts DC, but I'm wondering
> if (because of the alternator) the voltage is really in the form of a
> square oscillating wave. The device works 100% right until I kick the alternator
> on. Then it works about 90% of the time as expected, but randomly switches
> briefly to a flashing red display for a second then switches back to steady
> blue. I'm hoping the people who I bought the gadget from can offer a suggestion
> as to what to do if this is the cause.


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It's a Lycoming O-235 and the battery is a Gill sealed 14V battery purchased new 2/1/2010.
 
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What kind of engine is it?
What kind of battery?

Mike

> The diodes drop the monitored voltage by 1.2 volts.
> The device was made to monitor 12v DC batteries. Hence the need to deliberately
> drop the voltage to a range meaningful to the device. When monitoring the
> voltage with a digital meter it shows a steady 12.3 volts DC, but I'm wondering
> if (because of the alternator) the voltage is really in the form of a
> square oscillating wave. The device works 100% right until I kick the alternator
> on. Then it works about 90% of the time as expected, but randomly switches
> briefly to a flashing red display for a second then switches back to steady
> blue. I'm hoping the people who I bought the gadget from can offer a suggestion
> as to what to do if this is the cause.


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RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Maxpro Battery monitor

What kind of engine is it?
What kind of battery?

Mike

> The diodes drop the monitored voltage by 1.2 volts.
> The device was made to monitor 12v DC batteries. Hence the need to deliberately
> drop the voltage to a range meaningful to the device. When monitoring the
> voltage with a digital meter it shows a steady 12.3 volts DC, but I'm wondering
> if (because of the alternator) the voltage is really in the form of a
> square oscillating wave. The device works 100% right until I kick the alternator
> on. Then it works about 90% of the time as expected, but randomly switches
> briefly to a flashing red display for a second then switches back to steady
> blue. I'm hoping the people who I bought the gadget from can offer a suggestion
> as to what to do if this is the cause.


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The diodes drop the monitored voltage by 1.2 volts. The device was made to monitor 12v DC batteries. Hence the need to deliberately drop the voltage to a range meaningful to the device. When monitoring the voltage with a digital meter it shows a steady 12.3 volts DC, but I'm wondering if (because of the alternator) the voltage is really in the form of a square oscillating wave. The device works 100% right until I kick the alternator on. Then it works about 90% of the time as expected, but randomly switches briefly to a flashing red display for a second then switches back to steady blue. I'm hoping the people who I bought the gadget from can offer a suggestion as to what to do if this is the cause.
 
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<<I measured the voltage after the diodes (with the engine running) and it was a steady 12.3 volts.>>


Don't know the effect of the diodes, but with the engine running shouldn't the voltage be around 14v in a 12v airplane?

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--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hobson" <wrhobson@...> wrote:
>
> I did some work on this problem and eventually traced it to a loose connection. However, after fixing that problem the unit still would periodically blink red and then go back to blue. I measured the voltage after the diodes (with the engine running) and it was a steady 12.3 volts. I'm pretty sure either the unit or one of the diodes is just flakey and I'm going to buy/build another one to confirm my suspicions. Thanks for the suggestions and help.
>I'll post a final resolution for those that might want to know.


Bill. It sounds like you're making good progress.
If the voltage after the diodes is 12.3, then voltage
at battery should be about 13.5, IE, battery is being charged.

If things appear "flakey", it could be that your solder joints
for the diodes etc are not good quality.
(or any of the components could be flakey)


Mike

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Huckle
> To: Sport Aircraft
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:53 AM
> Subject: RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Maxpro Battery monitor
>
>
>
> Bill,
>
> The most likely reason for,
> "flashing red LED and the buzzer sounds (normally what the unit does if the voltage is way low)",
> would be,
> battery voltage low.
> Can you borrow a multi-meter and measure the voltage across battery?
> If it's more than 11, then measure the voltage on the two little wires going into this unit.
>
> Did you start the engine using the battery?
> If yes, did the battery sound strong?
>
> If you keep the battery charging (hopefully) for awhile, does the unit stop buzzing?
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> From: wrhobson@...
> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:43:44 +0000
> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Maxpro Battery monitor
>
>
> I realize this is a long-shot but I thought it would be worth a try. I bought a little doo-dad to serve as a low battery/alternator failure indicator (a whopping $6.00). It's called a Maxpro 3S and someone on this forum suggested that I put two diodes in series in the circuit. The unit seems to work fine when the engine isn't running, but when I fire the engine up and kick on the alternator the unit goes to a flashing red LED and the buzzer sounds (normally what the unit does if the voltage is way low). I (of course) have lost the little paper that came with the gadget, but I'm wondering if maybe it does this because of an OVER-voltage situation. Does anybody happen to know anything about how these circuits are typically built? Thanks.
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Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Dubuque & Cedar Rapids IA

I have found myself in Dubuque IA this morning flying out of Cedar Rapids this evening. Other than the 1.5 hour drive I have nothing to do today and would love to go up in an LSA.

Local FBOs CTLS is in the shop.

Anyone on the list familiar with this area with a recommendation?

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<<I measured the voltage after the diodes (with the engine running) and it was a steady 12.3 volts.>>

Don't know the effect of the diodes, but with the engine running shouldn't the voltage be around 14v in a 12v airplane?

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I did some work on this problem and eventually traced it to a loose connection. However, after fixing that problem the unit still would periodically blink red and then go back to blue. I measured the voltage after the diodes (with the engine running) and it was a steady 12.3 volts. I'm pretty sure either the unit or one of the diodes is just flakey and I'm going to buy/build another one to confirm my suspicions. Thanks for the suggestions and help. I'll post a final resolution for those that might want to know.
 
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Subject: RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Maxpro Battery monitor

 

Bill,

The most likely reason for,
"flashing red LED and the buzzer sounds (normally what the unit does if the voltage is way low)",
would be,
battery voltage low.
Can you borrow a multi-meter and measure the voltage across battery?
If it's more than 11, then measure the voltage on the two little wires going into this unit.

Did you start the engine using the battery?
If yes, did the battery sound strong?

If you keep the battery charging (hopefully) for awhile, does the unit stop buzzing?

Mike

To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
From: wrhobson@aol.com
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:43:44 +0000
Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Maxpro Battery monitor

 
I realize this is a long-shot but I thought it would be worth a try. I bought a little doo-dad to serve as a low battery/alternator failure indicator (a whopping $6.00). It's called a Maxpro 3S and someone on this forum suggested that I put two diodes in series in the circuit. The unit seems to work fine when the engine isn't running, but when I fire the engine up and kick on the alternator the unit goes to a flashing red LED and the buzzer sounds (normally what the unit does if the voltage is way low). I (of course) have lost the little paper that came with the gadget, but I'm wondering if maybe it does this because of an OVER-voltage situation. Does anybody happen to know anything about how these circuits are typically built? Thanks.



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RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Maxpro Battery monitor



Bill,

The most likely reason for,
"flashing red LED and the buzzer sounds (normally what the unit does if the voltage is way low)",
would be,
battery voltage low.
Can you borrow a multi-meter and measure the voltage across battery?
If it's more than 11, then measure the voltage on the two little wires going into this unit.

Did you start the engine using the battery?
If yes, did the battery sound strong?

If you keep the battery charging (hopefully) for awhile, does the unit stop buzzing?

Mike

To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
From: wrhobson@aol.com
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:43:44 +0000
Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Maxpro Battery monitor

 
I realize this is a long-shot but I thought it would be worth a try. I bought a little doo-dad to serve as a low battery/alternator failure indicator (a whopping $6.00). It's called a Maxpro 3S and someone on this forum suggested that I put two diodes in series in the circuit. The unit seems to work fine when the engine isn't running, but when I fire the engine up and kick on the alternator the unit goes to a flashing red LED and the buzzer sounds (normally what the unit does if the voltage is way low). I (of course) have lost the little paper that came with the gadget, but I'm wondering if maybe it does this because of an OVER-voltage situation. Does anybody happen to know anything about how these circuits are typically built? Thanks.



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