Thanks! I picked up the OA muffs at OSH. May try the "spoon method." :-)
Helen
On 7/30/2012 3:06 PM, ron_d_hill wrote:
> Tell you what I did.... I have a Challenger II CWS and had a really difficult time getting my intercom to work well. The problem was that I had a windshield in front of me and my wife in the back was basically open cockpit. This meant that for me to have the gain low enough to speak easily, that her mike was open and to shut off her open mike it was difficult for me to speak. Dual gains might have helped, but I was not willing to buy another intercom.
>
> So I went and bought two of these:
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/micmuf.php
>
> And that was not enough. So then I grabbed a plastic spoon and trimmed it down an slid it UNDER the leather muff but over the foam. It worked perfectly and now my wife and I have no issues.
>
>
>
> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Helen Woods <Helen_Woods@...> wrote:
>> So now that we have the Searey up and flying - with the windows open in
>> this daily 100 degree heat we've had all summer here in MD, I was
>> wondering, is there a better mic muf out there in the world? I know a
>> lot of you folks run around in flying machines sans doors, sometime sans
>> cockpits. What do you do to deal with the wind on the mic? Is there
>> something I can pick up at OSH next week?
>>
>> BTW, I'll be working the Searey booth in the LSA mall. Stop by. I'd
>> love to meet folks.
>>
>> Helen
>>
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Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: good mic muf
Tell you what I did.... I have a Challenger II CWS and had a really difficult time getting my intercom to work well. The problem was that I had a windshield in front of me and my wife in the back was basically open cockpit. This meant that for me to have the gain low enough to speak easily, that her mike was open and to shut off her open mike it was difficult for me to speak. Dual gains might have helped, but I was not willing to buy another intercom.
So I went and bought two of these:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/micmuf.php
And that was not enough. So then I grabbed a plastic spoon and trimmed it down an slid it UNDER the leather muff but over the foam. It worked perfectly and now my wife and I have no issues.
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Helen Woods <Helen_Woods@...> wrote:
>
> So now that we have the Searey up and flying - with the windows open in
> this daily 100 degree heat we've had all summer here in MD, I was
> wondering, is there a better mic muf out there in the world? I know a
> lot of you folks run around in flying machines sans doors, sometime sans
> cockpits. What do you do to deal with the wind on the mic? Is there
> something I can pick up at OSH next week?
>
> BTW, I'll be working the Searey booth in the LSA mall. Stop by. I'd
> love to meet folks.
>
> Helen
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So I went and bought two of these:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/micmuf.php
And that was not enough. So then I grabbed a plastic spoon and trimmed it down an slid it UNDER the leather muff but over the foam. It worked perfectly and now my wife and I have no issues.
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Helen Woods <Helen_Woods@...> wrote:
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> So now that we have the Searey up and flying - with the windows open in
> this daily 100 degree heat we've had all summer here in MD, I was
> wondering, is there a better mic muf out there in the world? I know a
> lot of you folks run around in flying machines sans doors, sometime sans
> cockpits. What do you do to deal with the wind on the mic? Is there
> something I can pick up at OSH next week?
>
> BTW, I'll be working the Searey booth in the LSA mall. Stop by. I'd
> love to meet folks.
>
> Helen
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Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: good mic muf
It just doesn't get any better!
Helen
How do you like the SeaRey Helen?
Abid
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Helen Woods <Helen_Woods@...> wrote:
>
> So now that we have the Searey up and flying - with the windows open in
> this daily 100 degree heat we've had all summer here in MD, I was
> wondering, is there a better mic muf out there in the world? I know a
> lot of you folks run around in flying machines sans doors, sometime sans
> cockpits. What do you do to deal with the wind on the mic? Is there
> something I can pick up at OSH next week?
>
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> love to meet folks.
>
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> So now that we have the Searey up and flying - with the windows open in
> this daily 100 degree heat we've had all summer here in MD, I was
> wondering, is there a better mic muf out there in the world? I know a
> lot of you folks run around in flying machines sans doors, sometime sans
> cockpits. What do you do to deal with the wind on the mic? Is there
> something I can pick up at OSH next week?
>
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> love to meet folks.
>
> Helen
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Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: good mic muf
How do you like the SeaRey Helen?
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--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Helen Woods <Helen_Woods@...> wrote:
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> So now that we have the Searey up and flying - with the windows open in
> this daily 100 degree heat we've had all summer here in MD, I was
> wondering, is there a better mic muf out there in the world? I know a
> lot of you folks run around in flying machines sans doors, sometime sans
> cockpits. What do you do to deal with the wind on the mic? Is there
> something I can pick up at OSH next week?
>
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> love to meet folks.
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> So now that we have the Searey up and flying - with the windows open in
> this daily 100 degree heat we've had all summer here in MD, I was
> wondering, is there a better mic muf out there in the world? I know a
> lot of you folks run around in flying machines sans doors, sometime sans
> cockpits. What do you do to deal with the wind on the mic? Is there
> something I can pick up at OSH next week?
>
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> love to meet folks.
>
> Helen
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Re: In-the-ear headsets (WAS: "Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group good mic muf")
Realistically, I cannot imagine that being a useful application in an actual ATC environment. While you are doing your playback, the frequency is basically being blocked from use while everyone is waiting on you. You are better off simply saying to the controller, "Say again" and have him repeat it, because then he at least knows you heard him. If he hears nothing from you while you're doing your playback, he will call you again anyway. Will you hear that call while the playback is on? I doubt it. If the frequency is so congested that the controller is speaking in bursts of information, your asking him to repeat helps teach him to slow down. I actually told a controller one day (foreign controller) he could say it 3 times fast, or once slowly, his choice. I didn't really care either way. LOL. The only time I could see a use for the playback would be when copying a clearance or a reroute, but you're still going to have to tell the controller to "Standby" while you're playing it back. The controller is still tied up. He can't go to someone else while he's waiting for you to play with your gadget. So, you may as well just have him read it again, write down the points you missed on the first one, and then read it back to him and you're done.
Jim
From: Brian
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 11:50 AM
Subject: In-the-ear headsets (WAS: "Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group good mic muf")
Lyle - after our conversation offline (:D) I'm still wanting to try these headsets and will be looking at them at Oshkosh this next week. What intrigued me is the app that Lightspeed just came out with for recording audio and also being able to do "instant" playback. To me that would be extremely appealing - if it works well and fast. One of the toughest things I have personally is retaining the quick burst if information ATC passes along to me and I would absolutely LOVE to have that feature in a headset.
Given that it looks like the Clarity simply has the bluetooth add-on that is available for most headsets (including/possibly Lightspeeds adaptation) I would hope that feature would be available in the Clarity soon. :D
One of these days I'll be up your way. :)
Brian
--- In mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com, "Lyle Cox" <LyleCox@...> wrote:
>
> I can tell you from practical use that they work EXTREMELY well for noise
> cancelation. In fact, they the same type of noise cancelling used by
> Harrier and Blackhawk pilots. If they take out that noise, I'm pretty sure
> they'll handle the average GA airplane.
>
>
>
> They are extremely light and comfortable. No head clamping or heavy weight
> for hours of flying.
>
>
>
> As to the noise canceling on the mic, it has active noise canceling. I
> could call you from my airplane and have a conversation and you would not be
> able to tell that I'm in the air. As for wind noise, I also use my headset
> as a hands free cellular headset. I have driven down the interstate at 75
> mph, with the windows wide open and the person I was talking to could not
> hear the wind.
>
>
>
> From: mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of circicirci
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 9:29 AM
> To: mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com
> Subject: In-the-ear headsets (WAS: "Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group
> good mic muf")
>
>
>
>
>
> Looks to me like what Clarity Aloft offers is one of those in-the-ear
> (rather than over the ear) headsets.
>
> I have some doubt that that would make any difference in the wind noise
> being picked up in the mic as their mic would be basically no different than
> any other headset mic.
>
> But it does raise something I'm curious about:
> Anyone here have any experience using any of those headsets that plug IN
> your ears? Their supposed advantage is they should be great at keeping
> cockpit noise out of our ear and be much lighter and less bulky than
> traditional headsets.
> If so, wonder why they're not popular. They're costly, but so are the top
> end conventional headsets that I see widely used.
>
> Alex
>
> --- In mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com> , "Lyle Cox" <LyleCox@> wrote:
> >
> > Stop by Clarity Aloft's booth.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com> ]
> > On Behalf Of Helen Woods
> > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 6:06 PM
> > To: mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group good mic muf
> >
> > ....lot of you folks run around in flying machines sans doors, sometime
> sans
> > cockpits. What do you do to deal with the wind on the mic? Is there
> > something I can pick up at OSH next week?......
> >
> > Helen
> >
>
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In-the-ear headsets (WAS: "Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group good mic muf")
Lyle - after our conversation offline (:D) I'm still wanting to try these headsets and will be looking at them at Oshkosh this next week. What intrigued me is the app that Lightspeed just came out with for recording audio and also being able to do "instant" playback. To me that would be extremely appealing - if it works well and fast. One of the toughest things I have personally is retaining the quick burst if information ATC passes along to me and I would absolutely LOVE to have that feature in a headset.
Given that it looks like the Clarity simply has the bluetooth add-on that is available for most headsets (including/possibly Lightspeeds adaptation) I would hope that feature would be available in the Clarity soon. :D
One of these days I'll be up your way. :)
Brian
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Lyle Cox" <LyleCox@...> wrote:
>
> I can tell you from practical use that they work EXTREMELY well for noise
> cancelation. In fact, they the same type of noise cancelling used by
> Harrier and Blackhawk pilots. If they take out that noise, I'm pretty sure
> they'll handle the average GA airplane.
>
>
>
> They are extremely light and comfortable. No head clamping or heavy weight
> for hours of flying.
>
>
>
> As to the noise canceling on the mic, it has active noise canceling. I
> could call you from my airplane and have a conversation and you would not be
> able to tell that I'm in the air. As for wind noise, I also use my headset
> as a hands free cellular headset. I have driven down the interstate at 75
> mph, with the windows wide open and the person I was talking to could not
> hear the wind.
>
>
>
> From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of circicirci
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 9:29 AM
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: In-the-ear headsets (WAS: "Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group
> good mic muf")
>
>
>
>
>
> Looks to me like what Clarity Aloft offers is one of those in-the-ear
> (rather than over the ear) headsets.
>
> I have some doubt that that would make any difference in the wind noise
> being picked up in the mic as their mic would be basically no different than
> any other headset mic.
>
> But it does raise something I'm curious about:
> Anyone here have any experience using any of those headsets that plug IN
> your ears? Their supposed advantage is they should be great at keeping
> cockpit noise out of our ear and be much lighter and less bulky than
> traditional headsets.
> If so, wonder why they're not popular. They're costly, but so are the top
> end conventional headsets that I see widely used.
>
> Alex
>
> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com> , "Lyle Cox" <LyleCox@> wrote:
> >
> > Stop by Clarity Aloft's booth.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com> ]
> > On Behalf Of Helen Woods
> > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 6:06 PM
> > To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group good mic muf
> >
> > ....lot of you folks run around in flying machines sans doors, sometime
> sans
> > cockpits. What do you do to deal with the wind on the mic? Is there
> > something I can pick up at OSH next week?......
> >
> > Helen
> >
>
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Given that it looks like the Clarity simply has the bluetooth add-on that is available for most headsets (including/possibly Lightspeeds adaptation) I would hope that feature would be available in the Clarity soon. :D
One of these days I'll be up your way. :)
Brian
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Lyle Cox" <LyleCox@...> wrote:
>
> I can tell you from practical use that they work EXTREMELY well for noise
> cancelation. In fact, they the same type of noise cancelling used by
> Harrier and Blackhawk pilots. If they take out that noise, I'm pretty sure
> they'll handle the average GA airplane.
>
>
>
> They are extremely light and comfortable. No head clamping or heavy weight
> for hours of flying.
>
>
>
> As to the noise canceling on the mic, it has active noise canceling. I
> could call you from my airplane and have a conversation and you would not be
> able to tell that I'm in the air. As for wind noise, I also use my headset
> as a hands free cellular headset. I have driven down the interstate at 75
> mph, with the windows wide open and the person I was talking to could not
> hear the wind.
>
>
>
> From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of circicirci
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 9:29 AM
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: In-the-ear headsets (WAS: "Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group
> good mic muf")
>
>
>
>
>
> Looks to me like what Clarity Aloft offers is one of those in-the-ear
> (rather than over the ear) headsets.
>
> I have some doubt that that would make any difference in the wind noise
> being picked up in the mic as their mic would be basically no different than
> any other headset mic.
>
> But it does raise something I'm curious about:
> Anyone here have any experience using any of those headsets that plug IN
> your ears? Their supposed advantage is they should be great at keeping
> cockpit noise out of our ear and be much lighter and less bulky than
> traditional headsets.
> If so, wonder why they're not popular. They're costly, but so are the top
> end conventional headsets that I see widely used.
>
> Alex
>
> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com> , "Lyle Cox" <LyleCox@> wrote:
> >
> > Stop by Clarity Aloft's booth.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com> ]
> > On Behalf Of Helen Woods
> > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 6:06 PM
> > To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group good mic muf
> >
> > ....lot of you folks run around in flying machines sans doors, sometime
> sans
> > cockpits. What do you do to deal with the wind on the mic? Is there
> > something I can pick up at OSH next week?......
> >
> > Helen
> >
>
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RE: In-the-ear headsets (WAS: "Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group good mic muf")
No..their mic muffs are not big huge noise canceling because the noise canceling is done electronically by the mic. I'd think Sporty's would have something.
As to the foam inserts, again, it is a personal preference thing. I can tell you that the foam is actually softer than your skin, which means they are extremely comfortable. When I am doing demo's and someone says they can't stand anything in their ears, if I can get them distracted for about 60 seconds, they suddenly realize they cannot feel the ear plugs anymore. We offer different sizes of plugs and you do need to get the right ones. Amazingly, a bigger plug many times is not the answer. If it feels like the plug is falling out of your ear, it's probably too big. You need to have the plug big enough to seal, but not too big.
If nothing else, I'd encourage you to go by the booth and ask them for a set of the ear plugs they give away. They're made from the same foam and GREAT for the air show.
These things are so comfortable, that I'll put my headset on at 9AM and take them off at 5PM, when the show closes, then sleep in the foam earplugs at night because the campground is so noisy. Again, personal preference allows me to do that. They might not be for you.
From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Helen Woods
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 10:12 AM
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: In-the-ear headsets (WAS: "Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group good mic muf")
I don't think they'd work for me. I have a terrible time getting earplugs to stay in my ears and when I do, they hurt.
Lyle, does CA have some sort of mic muf that will work with my David Clark? I'm super busy with meetings and selling planes but will stop by if you are saying they do.
On 07/20/12, circicirci<acensor@fastmail.fm> wrote:
Looks to me like what Clarity Aloft offers is one of those in-the-ear (rather than over the ear) headsets.
I have some doubt that that would make any difference in the wind noise being picked up in the mic as their mic would be basically no different than any other headset mic.
But it does raise something I'm curious about:
Anyone here have any experience using any of those headsets that plug IN your ears? Their supposed advantage is they should be great at keeping cockpit noise out of our ear and be much lighter and less bulky than traditional headsets.
If so, wonder why they're not popular. They're costly, but so are the top end conventional headsets that I see widely used.
Alex
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> Stop by Clarity Aloft's booth.
>
>
>
> From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Helen Woods
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 6:06 PM
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> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group good mic muf
>
> ....lot of you folks run around in flying machines sans doors, sometime sans
> cockpits. What do you do to deal with the wind on the mic? Is there
> something I can pick up at OSH next week?......
>
> Helen
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Re: In-the-ear headsets (WAS: "Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group good mic muf")
My QT came with two different sizes of foam ear plugs and one or two of the standard plastic type standard push in ear plugs with little rings on them that seal. So, it's kind of a personal preference thing. I can't imagine you wouldn't be able to find a set that worked and stayed in. I also can't imagine ear plugs hurting more than head clamps, but we're all built different so if they hurt you, can't argue with that.
Jim
From: Helen Woods
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: In-the-ear headsets (WAS: "Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group good mic muf")
I don't think they'd work for me. I have a terrible time getting earplugs to stay in my ears and when I do, they hurt.
Lyle, does CA have some sort of mic muf that will work with my David Clark? I'm super busy with meetings and selling planes but will stop by if you are saying they do.
Lyle, does CA have some sort of mic muf that will work with my David Clark? I'm super busy with meetings and selling planes but will stop by if you are saying they do.
Looks to me like what Clarity Aloft offers is one of those in-the-ear (rather than over the ear) headsets.
I have some doubt that that would make any difference in the wind noise being picked up in the mic as their mic would be basically no different than any other headset mic.
But it does raise something I'm curious about:
Anyone here have any experience using any of those headsets that plug IN your ears? Their supposed advantage is they should be great at keeping cockpit noise out of our ear and be much lighter and less bulky than traditional headsets.
If so, wonder why they're not popular. They're costly, but so are the top end conventional headsets that I see widely used.
Alex
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Lyle Cox" <LyleCox@...> wrote:
>
> Stop by Clarity Aloft's booth.
>
>
>
> From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Helen Woods
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 6:06 PM
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group good mic muf
>
> ....lot of you folks run around in flying machines sans doors, sometime sans
> cockpits. What do you do to deal with the wind on the mic? Is there
> something I can pick up at OSH next week?......
>
> Helen
>
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I have some doubt that that would make any difference in the wind noise being picked up in the mic as their mic would be basically no different than any other headset mic.
But it does raise something I'm curious about:
Anyone here have any experience using any of those headsets that plug IN your ears? Their supposed advantage is they should be great at keeping cockpit noise out of our ear and be much lighter and less bulky than traditional headsets.
If so, wonder why they're not popular. They're costly, but so are the top end conventional headsets that I see widely used.
Alex
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Lyle Cox" <LyleCox@...> wrote:
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> Stop by Clarity Aloft's booth.
>
>
>
> From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Helen Woods
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 6:06 PM
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group good mic muf
>
> ....lot of you folks run around in flying machines sans doors, sometime sans
> cockpits. What do you do to deal with the wind on the mic? Is there
> something I can pick up at OSH next week?......
>
> Helen
>
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