--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, b d <gpabruce@...> wrote:
>
> You have not heard of the stretch ercoupe?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm only kidding but it would be a great idea. I don't know why someone
> doesn't rethink the older proven models and styles as in cars as well. Can
> you imagine a carbon fibre ercoupe and maybe a longer model to cover more
> people.
> Bruce
>
> On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 12:10 PM, swferris@... <
> swferris@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I agree with you completely! I think that a slightly revised and modernized
> > (while keeping the essence of the design, and the building materials the
> > same or similar as the original) Ercoupe could be the PERFECT LSA!!! The
> > Rotax 912 would be a great engine option, and the Jabiru could also be a
> > great and an even lighter engine option . . . especially with the 2200 4
> > cylinder. Continental now offers a lighter LSA version of their O-200 100HP
> > engine that reportedly sheds around 40 pounds off the original engine. . . .
> > It would be great if Continental would start offering new modernized, and
> > lighter versions of their 65HP and 85HP engines, that would be targeted
> > towards the homebuilt, experimental, and LSA markets.
> >
> > By the way, back in the era when the Ercoupe was designed, I have read that
> > most aircraft designers designed their aircraft for the average "Joe" which
> > was at that time around 160 to 170 pounds in weight, and 5' 9" to 5' 10"
> > tall. My grand fathers and my dad were right around these target weights and
> > heights. The average "Joe" is now quite a bit larger . . . I don't know if
> > my height and weight are the average for men today, but I am over 6' tall,
> > and I weigh a little over 200 pounds. Most of the men in my age group (mid
> > 40s), and in my area (Mid America), are around my size, or even slightly
> > larger than I am.
> >
> > I do hope that some company steps up, and relaunches a modernized version
> > of the Ercoupe!!!
> >
> > * - A BRS chute option would also be a great new safety feature for a
> > revised, and modernized Ercoupe.
> >
> > --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com <Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Helen Woods <Helen_Woods@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Just not a lot of useful load. You have to remember that American's
> > > were a good deal smaller when the Ercoupe was designed than they are
> > > today, especially all the young men returning from war for whom these
> > > planes were marketed. Just because a plane is insurable doesn't mean
> > > the insurance company is going to pay out if there is an accident and
> > > they determine the pilot was intentionally flying over gross. The
> > > Ercoupe, like a lot of the old classics, is a great plane that I think
> > > would be even greater is someone did the R&D to STC a 912S to it so 2
> > > modern American (ie. hefty) men could fly it legally with full fuel.
> > >
> > > Helen
> > >
> > > On 3/14/2010 9:42 AM, Dan wrote:
> > > > W&B issues? That plane has flown a long time. What's wrong with it? Too
> > many have flown for 70+ yrs? Maybe the same issues that state that you can't
> > fly a J-3 with full fuel 2 people ,floats and what ever you can fit in it
> > and on the spreader bars. People have since the beginning and are still
> > today. All are insurable. I myself have never heard of a scarecoupe not
> > being flown because a person couldn't get insurance.
> > > > Dan
> > > >
> > > > --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com<Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Helen Woods<Helen_Woods@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Don, as an Ercoupe guy, perhaps you can answer my long standing
> > > >> question. Who owns the type certificate for Ercoupe these days and why
> > > >> haven't they put it back into production? 5 years ago I would have
> > laid
> > > >> bets that that would have been the very first LSA to go into
> > > >> production. Great safety record, easy trainer, wicked crosswind
> > > >> capability, and the insurance companies know how to insure it. Yes,
> > > >> there's W&B issue but I suepct that you could hang a Rotax on it to
> > take
> > > >> care of the weight and shift a few items around to take care of the
> > > >> balance issues caused by the lighter Rotax and then have a great,
> > safe,
> > > >> and easily insurable plane. Any ideas?
> > > >>
> > > >> Helen
> > > >>
> > > >> On 3/13/2010 8:52 PM, Donald wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> I chose an Ercoupe. Flying for over 70 years now and still going
> > strong! Spinproof and stallproof, can land in a crosswind that makes others
> > cringe. My insurance reflects that and is quite reasonable - especially for
> > an old geezer with zero previous time in a coupe.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com<Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Helen Woods<Helen_Woods@> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> The LSA industry is so new that you are probably going to find that
> > > >>>> insurance rates are based more on hull value that safety records.
> > You
> > > >>>> will of course pay a premium for anything tailwheel, seaplane, or
> > > >>>> experimental as with any plane.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I can't speak for other brands but Tecnam has only ever had one
> > fatal
> > > >>>> accident in the USA, that was caused by a mechanic leaving a
> > flashlight
> > > >>>> in the tailcone that got snagged in the control linkages. Tecnams
> > are
> > > >>>> built with a steel roll cage that makes nearly any accident
> > survivable.
> > > >>>> Also, their P92 series is about the closest thing to spin proof that
> > you
> > > >>>> can get without being an Ercoupe.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Helen
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On 3/13/2010 5:46 PM, swferris@ wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> To all:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Which LSAs have the best safety record, and the lowest insurance
> > cost?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Thanks,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Steve
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> ------------------------------------
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ------------------------------------
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
------------------------------------
Yahoo! Groups Links
<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sport_Aircraft/
<*> Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional
<*> To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sport_Aircraft/join
(Yahoo! ID required)
<*> To change settings via email:
Sport_Aircraft-digest@yahoogroups.com
Sport_Aircraft-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
Sport_Aircraft-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
No comments:
Post a Comment