I'll just drive over - for the one day. Bob McDonagh
----- Original Message -----Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 5:31 AMSubject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Digest Number 2485Messages In This Digest (15 Messages)
- 1a.
- Re: A return to civilized discussion. From: Lyle Cox
- 1b.
- Re: A return to civilized discussion. From: mdhansen3000
- 2a.
- Re: IFR Training and IFR Rating for Sport Pi... From: Marc
- 2b.
- Re: IFR Training and IFR Rating for Sport Pi... From: Bob Comperini
- 3a.
- Re: I solo'd From: Marc
- 3b.
- Re: I solo'd From: mdhansen3000
- 3c.
- Re: I solo'd From: Gary Orpe
- 3d.
- Re: I solo'd From: Chris Holub
- 3e.
- Re: I solo'd From: daleandee
- 3f.
- Re: I solo'd From: thomas@tecsplace.com
- 4a.
- Sebring From: mdhansen3000
- 4b.
- Re: Sebring From: Lyle Cox
- 4c.
- Re: Sebring From: Helen Woods
- 5a.
- Re: Sport-Aircraft group rules From: Richard Williams
- 6.1.
- Re: IFR Training and IFR Rating for Sport Pilots From: daleandee
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- 1a.
Re: A return to civilized discussion.
Posted by: "Lyle Cox" LyleCox@funaerosports.com hanginoutinhotels
Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:46 pm (PST)
I second that!!!!
From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups. [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@com yahoogroups. ]com
On Behalf Of Bill Hobson
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 2:42 PM
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group A return to civilized
discussion.
I applaud your efforts and had already added him to my Blocked Senders list
(had to go look up how).
----- Original Message -----
From: Helen Woods <mailto:Helen_Woods@verizon.net >
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 3:43 PM
Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group A return to civilized discussion.
After my morning post about Yahoos rules, the two remaining problem
members stepped up their written rants and attacks forcing Gary and me
to ban them from the list. One of these members, pgabruce, has created
an alternate list of sport_aircraft list members to which he has been
sending mail and over which we have no control. If you are still
receiving unsolicited and unwanted mail from this individual, I suggest
that you take the advice of my 3rd grade teacher and "ignore him so he
will go away." If he persists you can add his address to your spam
filter or else report him to his e-mail carrier at:
http://mail.google.com/ support/bin/ request.py? contact_type= abuse
Now let us return to civilized discussion about light sport aircraft.
Helen- 1b.
Re: A return to civilized discussion.
Posted by: "mdhansen3000" maddog52@aol.com mdhansen3000
Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:13 pm (PST)
Thank you Helen.
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups. , Helen Woods <Helen_Woods@com ...> wrote:
>
> After my morning post about Yahoos rules, the two remaining problem
> members stepped up their written rants and attacks forcing Gary and me
> to ban them from the list. One of these members, pgabruce, has created
> an alternate list of sport_aircraft list members to which he has been
> sending mail and over which we have no control. If you are still
> receiving unsolicited and unwanted mail from this individual, I suggest
> that you take the advice of my 3rd grade teacher and "ignore him so he
> will go away." If he persists you can add his address to your spam
> filter or else report him to his e-mail carrier at:
>
> http://mail.google.com/ support/bin/ request.py? contact_type= abuse
>
> Now let us return to civilized discussion about light sport aircraft.
>
> Helen
>
- 2a.
Re: IFR Training and IFR Rating for Sport Pi...
Posted by: "Marc" averys_98550@comcast.net babygreatlakes
Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:32 pm (PST)
That used to be a 50 mile leg and a total of 150 miles back in the day, but physical location restrictions caused the rules to be changed to 25. I ended up a 65 mile leg because the canadian border was too close north and the flight school didn't let me fly east over the Cascades. South was my best option. They also had an issue with me going through the Seattle TCA at that time, further restricting my options
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups. , Bob Comperini <bob@...> wrote:com
>
> On 09:11 PM 12/29/2010, medicbill@... wrote:
>
>
> >Sport pilot requires one dual and one solo flight of 3 legs 25 nm or longer. Not 50 hours cc.
> >
>
> And actually, "3 legs" is not required for Sport Pilot. You only have to make one 75nm trip, with at least one leg 25nm or more. In other words, a straight line to an airport 37.5nm away and back, is all that's required. Yes, for private, at least a "3 legged" trip is required.
>
>
> --
> Bob Comperini
> e-mail: bob@...
> WWW: http://www.fly-ul.com
>- 2b.
Re: IFR Training and IFR Rating for Sport Pi...
Posted by: "Bob Comperini" bob@fly-ul.com Comperini
Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:50 pm (PST)
On 02:32 PM 12/30/2010, Marc wrote:
>That used to be a 50 mile leg and a total of 150 miles back in the day, but physical location restrictions caused the rules to be changed to 25.
The 50/150 deal, is still valid for private
The 25/75 is for Sport Pilot
--
Bob Comperini
e-mail: bob@fly-ul.com
WWW: http://www.fly-ul.com
- 3a.
Re: I solo'd
Posted by: "Marc" averys_98550@comcast.net babygreatlakes
Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:47 pm (PST)
Congrats, Now the fun begins.
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups. , "Chris" <chris.holub@com ...> wrote:
>
> Been meaning to update but I have been busy.
> I did my solo on 12/26. Everything went great and it was the typical scenario, she had me do two touch and go's and then as we lifted off after the second one she said OK make the next one a full stop. On that full stop landing I pulled in and taxi over in front of the restaurant and she spoke to me for a few min just telling me that even though she is not in the plane I will still hear her in my headset telling me a little rudder OK now flair etc...not literally speaking just saying I will still hear her in my head also to just remember my training and if anything gets strange to just land the plane.
> My wife youngest Daughter, Mother In-Law, and Oldest Daughters boyfriends mother was there on top of the observation deck watching me and I waved to them and they waved back as I pulled in. Not sure if you remember but it was my Daughters boyfriends Dad who gave me all my flight gear. My headset, Icom transceiver, flight bag and knee board so that's why she was there.
> Anyway like I said Jackie got out and I pulled up ATIS and got Yankee and then did my call except I called tower lol Archer 4MA this is tower please contact ground on 121.8. Oh my God already I screwed up haha. OK switched over to ground and got my clearance to taxi to C1 for Rwy 7R. Jackie told me to tell them also that this was my first supervised Solo. I guess they want to know that here at Deer Valley.
> Now at C1 I go through my run-up again even though I just landed but better to be safe than sorry and everything checks out. I pull up to the lines and call tower and again let them know I'm a first time solo.
> I get Archer 354MA cleared for takeoff full length make right traffic 7R and off I go.
> Without Jackie in that right seat the Archer III is feeling like a home sick angel climbing quicker than I have ever experienced. By the time I'm just passed the end of the runway I'm 500 feet off the ground and by the time I roll out of my crosswind turn I'm at TPA 2500 feet.
> It was very nice out this morning The temp was about 60 and hardly any winds and I never was behind anyone in the pattern so I made my two touch and go's and one full stop and as I taxi back in all the people on the observation deck were clapping and hollering for me because there are speakers up there and can hear everything from ground and tower.
> It was an exciting time to say the least as many of you have experienced. After I parked and went into Jackie's office my family came in and she signed off my log book and endorsements. I can now fly to Glendale, Goodyear, Chandler and around Deer Valley with up to a 10kt crosswind. Then the ceremonial writing on my shirt and cutting the back of it off and my family there to take the pics.
>
> Here is Part 1
> http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=eoAkiLqOFDg
> and
> Part 2 of my SOLO.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=zGBTeatyWOw
>
> I have one more video to come and it will be from the camera my wife was using from the observation deck.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>- 3b.
Re: I solo'd
Posted by: "mdhansen3000" maddog52@aol.com mdhansen3000
Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:07 pm (PST)
Congratulations! nice job. You'll have lots more fun as you progress.
-- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups. , "Chris" <chris.holub@com ...> wrote:
>
> Been meaning to update but I have been busy.
> I did my solo on 12/26. Everything went great and it was the typical scenario, she had me do two touch and go's and then as we lifted off after the second one she said OK make the next one a full stop. On that full stop landing I pulled in and taxi over in front of the restaurant and she spoke to me for a few min just telling me that even though she is not in the plane I will still hear her in my headset telling me a little rudder OK now flair etc...not literally speaking just saying I will still hear her in my head also to just remember my training and if anything gets strange to just land the plane.
> My wife youngest Daughter, Mother In-Law, and Oldest Daughters boyfriends mother was there on top of the observation deck watching me and I waved to them and they waved back as I pulled in. Not sure if you remember but it was my Daughters boyfriends Dad who gave me all my flight gear. My headset, Icom transceiver, flight bag and knee board so that's why she was there.
> Anyway like I said Jackie got out and I pulled up ATIS and got Yankee and then did my call except I called tower lol Archer 4MA this is tower please contact ground on 121.8. Oh my God already I screwed up haha. OK switched over to ground and got my clearance to taxi to C1 for Rwy 7R. Jackie told me to tell them also that this was my first supervised Solo. I guess they want to know that here at Deer Valley.
> Now at C1 I go through my run-up again even though I just landed but better to be safe than sorry and everything checks out. I pull up to the lines and call tower and again let them know I'm a first time solo.
> I get Archer 354MA cleared for takeoff full length make right traffic 7R and off I go.
> Without Jackie in that right seat the Archer III is feeling like a home sick angel climbing quicker than I have ever experienced. By the time I'm just passed the end of the runway I'm 500 feet off the ground and by the time I roll out of my crosswind turn I'm at TPA 2500 feet.
> It was very nice out this morning The temp was about 60 and hardly any winds and I never was behind anyone in the pattern so I made my two touch and go's and one full stop and as I taxi back in all the people on the observation deck were clapping and hollering for me because there are speakers up there and can hear everything from ground and tower.
> It was an exciting time to say the least as many of you have experienced. After I parked and went into Jackie's office my family came in and she signed off my log book and endorsements. I can now fly to Glendale, Goodyear, Chandler and around Deer Valley with up to a 10kt crosswind. Then the ceremonial writing on my shirt and cutting the back of it off and my family there to take the pics.
>
> Here is Part 1
> http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=eoAkiLqOFDg
> and
> Part 2 of my SOLO.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=zGBTeatyWOw
>
> I have one more video to come and it will be from the camera my wife was using from the observation deck.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>- 3c.
Re: I solo'd
Posted by: "Gary Orpe" garyo@bak.rr.com garyo263
Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:17 pm (PST)
Chris, love your videos but have to tell you I watched another and that has
got to be the flight lesson of all time. Were you able to even hear all that
was going on? Wow, great job. Again, congratulations.
http://www.youtube.com/user/ cholubaz# p/a/u/2/kBZOtSUX lnI
Gary Orpe
->-----Original Message-----
->From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups. com
->[mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups. ] On Behalf Of Chriscom
->Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 12:47 PM
->To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups. com
->Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group I solo'd
->
->
->Been meaning to update but I have been busy.
->I did my solo on 12/26. Everything went great and it was the
->typical scenario, she had me do two touch and go's and then
->as we lifted off after the second one she said OK make the
->next one a full stop.- 3d.
Re: I solo'd
Posted by: "Chris Holub" chris.holub@cox.net holub_chris
Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:26 pm (PST)
Thanks Gary and everyone else too.
"Were you able to even hear all that
was going on?"
Do you mean all the radio chatter?
This is normal for Deer Valley. It is the busiest GA Airport in the country.
After about my 3rd lesson I started doing all radio calls. I have not been
to a uncontrolled airport yet so that will be strange for me lol
Cheers,
Chris
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Gary Orpe <garyo@bak.rr.com > wrote:
>
>
> Chris, love your videos but have to tell you I watched another and that has
> got to be the flight lesson of all time. Were you able to even hear all
> that
> was going on? Wow, great job. Again, congratulations.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/user/ cholubaz# p/a/u/2/kBZOtSUX lnI
>
>
> Gary Orpe
>
> ->-----Original Message-----
> ->From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups. <Sport_Aircraft%com 40yahoogroups. com>
> ->[mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups. <Sport_Aircraft%com 40yahoogroups. com>]
> On Behalf Of Chris
> ->Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 12:47 PM
> ->To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups. <Sport_Aircraft%com 40yahoogroups. com>
> ->Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group I solo'd
> ->
> ->
> ->Been meaning to update but I have been busy.
>
> ->I did my solo on 12/26. Everything went great and it was the
> ->typical scenario, she had me do two touch and go's and then
> ->as we lifted off after the second one she said OK make the
> ->next one a full stop.
>
>
>- 3e.
Re: I solo'd
Posted by: "daleandee" daleandee@yahoo.com daleandee
Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:25 pm (PST)
Very well done. You made me remember my first solo flight.
Thanks for the uplift ...
Dale
N28YD
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups. , "Chris" <chris.holub@com ...> wrote:
> Been meaning to update but I have been busy.
> I did my solo on 12/26. <SNIP>- 3f.
Re: I solo'd
Posted by: "thomas@tecsplace.com" thomas@tecsplace.com carlsonthomas
Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:08 pm (PST)
Excellent!
Way to go!
Thomas
- 4a.
Sebring
Posted by: "mdhansen3000" maddog52@aol.com mdhansen3000
Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:10 pm (PST)
Who's going to Sebring for the Light Sport Expo? Jan 20-23. I'll be there all 4 days.
Mitch- 4b.
Re: Sebring
Posted by: "Lyle Cox" LyleCox@funaerosports.com hanginoutinhotels
Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:39 pm (PST)
Not sure. I'm trying to arrange it, but will be at Sun N Fun for sure.
From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups. [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@com yahoogroups. ]com
On Behalf Of mdhansen3000
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 4:10 PM
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Sebring
Who's going to Sebring for the Light Sport Expo? Jan 20-23. I'll be there
all 4 days.
Mitch- 4c.
Re: Sebring
Posted by: "Helen Woods" Helen_Woods@verizon.net hwoods4421
Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:20 pm (PST)
Me!
Helen
On 12/30/2010 6:10 PM, mdhansen3000 wrote:
> Who's going to Sebring for the Light Sport Expo? Jan 20-23. I'll be there all 4 days.
>
> Mitch
>
>
>
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Re: Sport-Aircraft group rules
Posted by: "Richard Williams" rkwill@lewiscounty.com rkwill98356
Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:22 pm (PST)
Helen,
Thanks for stepping up to the plate and making it clear that undesireable
behavior/posts will not be tolerated.
R. Williams
---------- Original Message -----------
From: "Lyle Cox" <LyleCox@funaerosports.com >
To: <Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups. >com
Sent: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 11:17:08 -0700
Subject: RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Sport-Aircraft group rules
> Just chiming in to say "THANKS!!"
>
> From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups. [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@com yahoogroups. ]com
> On Behalf Of Helen Woods
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 7:08 AM
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Sport-Aircraft group rules
>
> The following rules are in place for all Yahoo groups including
> Sport-Aircraft:
>
> 1. You may not harass, abuse, threaten, or advocate violence against
> other members or individuals or groups.
> 2. You may not post content that is harmful to minors.
> 3. You may not post content that is obscene, otherwise
> objectionable, or in violation of federal or state law.
> 4. Stay on topic. Although all groups are different, most groups
> appreciate it when you stay on topic. If you constantly stray from the
> topic you may be moderated or removed from a group altogether by its owner.
> 5. You may not add members to a group without their permission.
>
> 6. You may not use Yahoo! Groups for commercial or advertising purposes.
> 7. You may not post content which infringes the intellectual property,
> privacy or other rights of third parties.
> 8. You may only post adult-oriented content in age-restricted areas.
> You must be 18 years old or over to access these areas.
> 9. Some content may be more appropriate in some contexts than others.
> Yahoo! reserves the right to remove content that it determines, in its
> sole discretion, to be inappropriate and in violation of our rules.
> For example, discussions or depictions of bestiality, incest,
> excretory acts, or child pornography may be inappropriate if placed
> in a sexual or otherwise exploitative context.
> 10. You may not use Groups solely for the purpose of storing and
> archiving files.
> 11. You cannot re-post or re-transmit content that belongs to another
> user without that user's permission. A Groups owner or moderator (or
> any other user) cannot re-post or re-transmit Groups content to any
> other site unless the person has the explicit permission of every
> group member whose content is being re-posted or re-transmitted.
>
> In the past two weeks three individuals, out of the 1910 total members
> of Sport_Aircraft, have repeatedly violated rules #1, 3, and 4. Gary
> and I placed them on moderated status and began filtering offensive
> and illegal e-mails. Since then, one of these members has left
> voluntarily, a second has contented himself with sending insults
> against Gary to the filter to test Gary's patience, the third has gone
> on to also violate rules # 5 and 11 by creating his own list of active
> Sport_Aircraft list members without their consent to which he
> retransmits list content as well as his illegal and offensive posts
> pretending that he is posting to this list.
>
> Consider this a final warning. If the flagrant violation of Yahoo
> group rules by these individuals or any other individuals continues,
> these individuals will be permanently removed from this group.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Helen
> List Moderator
------- End of Original Message -------
- 6.1.
Re: IFR Training and IFR Rating for Sport Pilots
Posted by: "daleandee" daleandee@yahoo.com daleandee
Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:05 pm (PST)
It was ... until the spam filter threw that trash under the bus!
Dale
N28YD
PS: It seems that in between all of the comedy on this site I can find a
pearl of wisdom here and there.
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