Wednesday, June 30, 2010

Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: New LSS coming!!!

I wish them the best and I am sure they will go into production as well.

If everyone saw glass half empty, the world would never move. There are too many people who see half empty glasses already. Let try not to join them.
Abid

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> http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93804?fp=1
> <http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93804?fp=1>
> Only for those with deep pockets!, indeed. Non-the-less it is cool if
> only for the exemption precedent that it sets!
> AJS
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Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group New LSS coming!!!



It will go in production, people with DEEP POCKETS pay more than that for thir cars and will buy one even if they don't fly now because few other people can afford one.
Jim


From: Peter Walker <peterwalker58@yahoo.com>
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, June 30, 2010 1:06:05 AM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group New LSS coming!!!

 

Hello
 it really set no precedents it allowed the seaplane gross to be used. A reasonable interpretation as both have alternate uses Its a really good project that has almost no chance of getting to production. The BIG hurdle is gaining EPA certification for a non complying engine (Rotax 914) and then meeting Dot crash standard

Its a well planned example of vaporware, a tax write-off for investors
Peter

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From: adamshaiken <ajshaiken@gmail. com>
Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group New LSS coming!!!
To: Sport_Aircraft@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 2:44 PM

 

http://buzz. yahoo.com/ buzzlog/93804? fp=1


Only for those with deep pockets!, indeed. Non-the-less it is cool if only for the exemption precedent that it sets!

AJS




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Tuesday, June 29, 2010

Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group New LSS coming!!!



Hello
 it really set no precedents it allowed the seaplane gross to be used. A reasonable interpretation as both have alternate uses Its a really good project that has almost no chance of getting to production. The BIG hurdle is gaining EPA certification for a non complying engine (Rotax 914) and then meeting Dot crash standard

Its a well planned example of vaporware, a tax write-off for investors
Peter

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From: adamshaiken <ajshaiken@gmail.com>
Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group New LSS coming!!!
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 2:44 PM

 

http://buzz. yahoo.com/ buzzlog/93804? fp=1


Only for those with deep pockets!, indeed. Non-the-less it is cool if only for the exemption precedent that it sets!

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Only for those with deep pockets!, indeed. Non-the-less it is cool if only for the exemption precedent that it sets!

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Monday, June 28, 2010

Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group New trike CFI in Maryland

Hi All,
A new trike CFI was created this morning for the state of Maryland based at Chesapeake Sport Pilot FBO, Bob Snyder. Bob is also an airplane CFI.
Abid
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Sunday, June 27, 2010

RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group New mic for loud aviation settings



The mic is very important.  The mic needs to be noise cancelling also, or as you have found out, the ambient noise will still come through the intercom and if you "squelch" it out, you have to nearly scream into the mike to open the circuit to talk.  A really good mic lets you squelch the ambient noise out and still pick up immediately when you start to talk.  The electronics in both noise canceling for the audio and noise cancelling for the mic is the reason the higher end headsets have to charge what they do to get the quality you are looking for.  It's really interesting to sit down at the local FBO and listen to the different aircraft calling in.  There is a huge difference in the quality of the radio calls..and I don't mean in technique.

 

From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Hilderbrand
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 8:28 PM
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group New mic for loud aviation settings

 

 

Your problem is very interesting! Probably because I thought I was the only person fighting this issue.  It is hard to convince people that the noise is not electrical in nature. I have tried putting putty on the backside of the rear mic, along with the muff, and still pic up noise.  I have the in-the-ear headsets  (now) and they seem to help a lot. The mic on these are only on one side. Turning the VOX sensitivity down also helped some (on my radio).  The intercom squelch, which I thought was not functional, come to find out works as VOX sensitivity for the passenger.  Right now I am trying to find a passenger to see if adjusting the intercom squelch will eliminate the noise when flying with a passenger - this is the only time I get the noise now.  
 

Michael Hilderbrand
Derby, Kansas
Sonex #1017 Flying
Jabiru 3300 w/ Aerocarb
Http://www.kansasflying.com

 

 


From: fishmaster232 <fishmaster232@live.com>
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Sent: Sun, June 27, 2010 1:18:55 PM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group New mic for loud aviation settings

 

I'm sure there are many good systems out there, but my headset is fine just the mic is picking up everything around me.

For $150.00 the Boom mic installed on my headset seems to be a deal.

I have two headsets to fix and just don't want to spend over a grand doing it.

Rod

--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Lyle Cox" <LyleCox@...> wrote:
>
> Give Clarity Alofts a try. You'll be very surprised at the sound clarity of
> both the headset speakers and the microphone.
>
> www.clarityaloft.com
>
>
>
> From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of fishmaster232
> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 7:56 AM
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group New mic for loud aviation settings
>
>
> I have a lot of background noise in my headset and was surfing looking for a
> solution and found this company that contracts with the military.
>
> Has anyone tried these or heard of them before ?
>
> The demos on their web site sound very impressive and they will even install
> the mic on your headset.
>
> http://www.theboom.com/v/products/theboom-ume-cobra-microphone.html
>
> Rod
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Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group New mic for loud aviation settings



Your problem is very interesting! Probably because I thought I was the only person fighting this issue.  It is hard to convince people that the noise is not electrical in nature. I have tried putting putty on the backside of the rear mic, along with the muff, and still pic up noise.  I have the in-the-ear headsets  (now) and they seem to help a lot. The mic on these are only on one side. Turning the VOX sensitivity down also helped some (on my radio).  The intercom squelch, which I thought was not functional, come to find out works as VOX sensitivity for the passenger.  Right now I am trying to find a passenger to see if adjusting the intercom squelch will eliminate the noise when flying with a passenger - this is the only time I get the noise now.  
 
Michael Hilderbrand
Derby, Kansas
Sonex #1017 Flying
Jabiru 3300 w/ Aerocarb
Http://www.kansasflying.com



From: fishmaster232 <fishmaster232@live.com>
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, June 27, 2010 1:18:55 PM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group New mic for loud aviation settings

 

I'm sure there are many good systems out there, but my headset is fine just the mic is picking up everything around me.

For $150.00 the Boom mic installed on my headset seems to be a deal.

I have two headsets to fix and just don't want to spend over a grand doing it.

Rod

--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Lyle Cox" <LyleCox@...> wrote:
>
> Give Clarity Alofts a try. You'll be very surprised at the sound clarity of
> both the headset speakers and the microphone.
>
> www.clarityaloft.com
>
>
>
> From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of fishmaster232
> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 7:56 AM
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group New mic for loud aviation settings
>
>
> I have a lot of background noise in my headset and was surfing looking for a
> solution and found this company that contracts with the military.
>
> Has anyone tried these or heard of them before ?
>
> The demos on their web site sound very impressive and they will even install
> the mic on your headset.
>
> http://www.theboom.com/v/products/theboom-ume-cobra-microphone.html
>
> Rod
>



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Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group New mic for loud aviation settings

I'm sure there are many good systems out there, but my headset is fine just the mic is picking up everything around me.

For $150.00 the Boom mic installed on my headset seems to be a deal.

I have two headsets to fix and just don't want to spend over a grand doing it.


Rod

--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Lyle Cox" <LyleCox@...> wrote:
>
> Give Clarity Alofts a try. You'll be very surprised at the sound clarity of
> both the headset speakers and the microphone.
>
> www.clarityaloft.com
>
>
>
> From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of fishmaster232
> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 7:56 AM
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group New mic for loud aviation settings
>
>
> I have a lot of background noise in my headset and was surfing looking for a
> solution and found this company that contracts with the military.
>
> Has anyone tried these or heard of them before ?
>
> The demos on their web site sound very impressive and they will even install
> the mic on your headset.
>
> http://www.theboom.com/v/products/theboom-ume-cobra-microphone.html
>
> Rod
>


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RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group New mic for loud aviation settings



Give Clarity Alofts a try.  You’ll be very surprised at the sound clarity of both the headset speakers and the microphone.

 

www.clarityaloft.com

 

 

 

From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fishmaster232
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 7:56 AM
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group New mic for loud aviation settings

 

 

I have a lot of background noise in my headset and was surfing looking for a solution and found this company that contracts with the military.

Has anyone tried these or heard of them before ?

The demos on their web site sound very impressive and they will even install the mic on your headset.

http://www.theboom.com/v/products/theboom-ume-cobra-microphone.html

Rod



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Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group New mic for loud aviation settings

I have a lot of background noise in my headset and was surfing looking for a solution and found this company that contracts with the military.

Has anyone tried these or heard of them before ?

The demos on their web site sound very impressive and they will even install the mic on your headset.

http://www.theboom.com/v/products/theboom-ume-cobra-microphone.html

Rod

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Friday, June 25, 2010

Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Terrafugia gets a weight exemption

FAA grants roadable airplane weight exemption

By Alton K. Marsh

TerrafugiaThe FAA boosted hopes of Terrafugia officials to market a roadable light sport aircraft (LSA) by granting a large portion of the weight increase the company requested. The FAA said it would allow the vehicle to weigh 1,430 pounds, the same limit already allowed for LSA seaplanes. The company’s request to increase the weight from the LSA standard of 1,320 pounds to a higher 1,474 pounds was denied.

By granting the same weight limit as for LSA seaplanes, the FAA has acknowledged that the Terrafugia flying car is a different type of LSA. That acknowledgement could help the company with federal highway officials.

Still to come is approval from federal highway officials regarding non-waiverable highway crashworthiness standards. Without that, the vehicle can’t be marketed as a roadable vehicle. There is no timetable for a decision, but company officials are hoping to hear this year. Company officials feel the extra weight allowance by the FAA allows for the weight of the structure needed to meet highway safety standards, despite the FAA approval falling 44 pounds short of the request.

As it stands, the FAA weight exemption allows a payload of 310 to 330 pounds when carrying full fuel of 20 gallons. Owners may decide to fly partially fueled in order to carry a passenger. LSA aircraft are limited to two seats.

Terrafugia will unveil computer renderings of its production prototype design at EAA AirVenture July 26 at 10:30 a.m. at the Terrafugia exhibit. Initial deliveries of the Transition are expected at the end of 2011. The company has about 70 orders.

June 22, 2010
http://www.aopa.org/aircraft/articles/2010/100622terrafugia.html?WT.mc_id=100625epilot&WT.mc_sect=gan

Cheers,
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Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: SOL - Memorial day - EAA falls down

Now, if we can get the "News Media" to run this story it would heal the black eye they WRONGFULLY gave us in the general public's view.

Fat chance of that....

Rod

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> EAA has printed a new web article concerning this story which does a
> much better job reporting it. See it here:
>
> http://www.eaa.org/news/2010/2010-06-24_trike_flight.asp
> <http://www.eaa.org/news/2010/2010-06-24_trike_flight.asp>
>
> In addition, their online newsletter "Light Plane World", edited by my
> friend Dan Grunloh will cover it in an upcoming issue.
>
> Bill


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Thursday, June 24, 2010

Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: SOL - Memorial day - EAA falls down



EAA has printed a new web article concerning this story which does a much better job reporting it. See it here:

http://www.eaa.org/news/2010/2010-06-24_trike_flight.asp

In addition, their online newsletter "Light Plane World", edited by my friend Dan Grunloh will cover it in an upcoming issue.

Bill
 
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Michael Huckle <m230683@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Great Post, Bill!
>
> Mike
>
> > From: bczygan@...
> > I went back and read the EAA story. It's reprinted here. A few things about how the EAA handled this story make me mad. The EAA basically rephrased stories printed by others. In their hurry to get stories into print, and with limited resources, they don't seem to investigate. By doing this they amplify errors, falsehoods and incomplete reporting done by others, and spread this to a wider audience. In addition, the story stays the same on their website, with no corrections or retractions noted. They owe their members, and the wider aviation community the fiduciary duty to get it right the first time, and to show a record of changes and retractions when they happen. And in a deeper sense, they have a duty to defend pilots in the public forum, to educate the public, and to condemn other parties who make errors, as the Park Service did in this case. In jumping at the chance for a quick sensational story, they may have gotten eyeballs on the web page, but they have disappointed me in the things they didn't do.
> >
> > The web allows the space to fully discuss a story, something that print didn't allow. It's too bad that they don't use this advantage, but instead rewrite short sensational stories with hot button phrases and words like "Pilot Buzzes Lady Liberty", and "they weren't terrorism videos,"
> >
> > They condemned him with: "came within 150 feet of the Statue of liberty", "As with most airspace violations", "After his up-close look at the US landmark", "Maggio's familiarity with the airspace was antiquated".
> >
> >
> >
> > As it turns out, the only person who made a mistake that day was the Park Service employee.
> >
> >
> >
> > The EAA needs to look long and hard in the mirror. They need to ask themselves who they serve, and then each time a story materializes, They need to ask themselves "how do I best serve my members, pilots and aircraft owners, and the aviation community"? Sometimes waiting, not rushing to judgment, and for heavens sakes, not passing on bad reporting, is the best course. A later, less attention grabbing story would have been "Park Service Errs by Calling Cops on Pilot". It would have given the EAA a chance to wait for all the real facts to be found out, and then to respond with real educational information for pilots, the public and other agencies. It could have made us all more aware of the rules in the Hudson/NY area, and simply by refreshing us on those rules, impress on the general public, the professionalism of the EAA and its members.
> >
> > Their job is to foster a public view of pilots as responsible people with appropriate training and good judgment and skills. In this case, they missed their opportunity. I'm waiting to see if they can do better next time.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bill Czygan
> >
> > EAA Member No. 1006273
> >
> >
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> > Here's the EAA story:
> >
> >
> >
> > Pilot Buzzes Lady Liberty in a Trike
> >
> > Monsoon trike
> >
> > File photo
> >
> >
> >
> > June 3, 2010 — Barry Maggio of Massachusetts, decided to take advantage of the glorious weather Monday (May 31) and tour New York City from the air. Barry came within 150 feet of the Statue of liberty according to the Wall Street Journal, which wrote that "the U.S. Parks Police notified the Federal Aviation Administration, the New York Police Department launched a chopper to intercept the flight."
> >
> >
> >
> > After his up-close look at the US landmark, Maggio headed back north up the Hudson. An NYPD helicopter caught up to him near the George Washington Bridge. Maggio, who was flying an Apollo Aircraft Monsoon trike, was escorted to Westchester County Airport (KHPN), where he was questioned.
> >
> >
> >
> > As with most airspace violations, Maggio's familiarity with the airspace was antiquated and was quoted as saying, "I haven't lived here in a while but I guess I didn't realize that security was that tight... [Security is] obviously different in the city here, in Lower Manhattan, and I didn't take that into account."
> >
> >
> >
> > Maggio videotaped his three-hour journey, and the authorities reviewed the video but once it was determined "they weren't terrorism videos," he was released.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bill
>
>
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Wednesday, June 23, 2010

RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group FCC Bans 121.5 ELTs - DO NOT COMPLY

>I am keeping my gun too.
>It is buried at a very handy place somewhere, just like the rules are.


Gary.... are you one of those, "shooting from behind the rocks guys"?
;-)


Mike


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RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group FCC Bans 121.5 ELTs - DO NOT COMPLY

->-----Original Message-----
->From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com]
->On Behalf Of Michael Huckle
->Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 8:10 AM
->To: Sport Aircraft
->Subject: RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group FCC Bans 121.5 ELTs - DO NOT
->COMPLY
->
->
->
->>This SNAFU with ELT's is just the latest in a long list of agency screw
ups.
->>The FAA is even more notorious for bad rule making.
->>And they seldom if ever correct their mistakes.
->>These agencies are losing credibility and becoming irrelevant.
->>My advice is to ignore bad rules. Do not comply with them.
->>Do what is prudent and reasonable.
->
->
->Sounds reasonable to me!
->
->
->Cheers,
->Mike
->
I think the Lawyers/politicians; have made the "We the people" thing
un-constitutional now. Are we still allowed to check that out? %-) I am
keeping my gun too. It is buried at a very handy place somewhere, just like
the rules are.

Shucks. It's to bad we are two stupid to fly right side up and need their
help to do it.

Gary Orpe


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RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group FCC Bans 121.5 ELTs - DO NOT COMPLY

>This SNAFU with ELT's is just the latest in a long list of agency screw ups.
>The FAA is even more notorious for bad rule making.
>And they seldom if ever correct their mistakes.
>These agencies are losing credibility and becoming irrelevant.
>My advice is to ignore bad rules. Do not comply with them.
>Do what is prudent and reasonable.


Sounds reasonable to me!


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RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group FCC Bans 121.5 ELTs - DO NOT COMPLY

It is crap like this, that is piece by piece, taking people out of aviation
for something else to do. Not that they don't want to fly. For instance I
started flying in 2000, having wanted to all my life. Just never got around
to doing it money or time wise. UL hooked me when I retired and then we all
got shot down with that. Now it seems with their being upset that the ASTM
isn't doing what they wanted it to do, will be making more rules to bring
SLSA into line with the over regulated GA, for your safety, bunch. Most of
us just can't afford to be more safe, or be more taken care of. To fall in
line with what Bob just said, remember that the next time you see someone
pass you on the freeway at 80+ mph, with their headlights on, for safety.
What can I say? Rant over.

Gary Orpe
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->From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com]
->On Behalf Of Bill C
->Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:01 AM
->To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
->Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group FCC Bans 121.5 ELTs - DO NOT
->COMPLY
->
->This SNAFU with ELT's is just the latest in a long list of agency screw
ups. The FAA
->is even more notorious for bad rule making. And they seldom if ever
correct their
->mistakes. These agencies are losing credibility and becoming irrelevant.
My
->advice is to ignore bad rules. Do not comply with them. Do what is prudent
and
->reasonable.
->
->--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Helen Woods <Helen_Woods@...>
wrote:
->>
->> As far as tax payers are concerned, they will save with this switch.
->> Untold amounts of money will be saved in SAR both during false alarms,
->> which unlike with the 121.5 system, generally only require a phone call
->> to to deactivate vs. activation of both air and ground SAR resources,
->> and of course on actually crashes where the pilot will be located in
->> hours rather than a search potentially going on for weeks involving
->> massive resources. Yes, the direct cost to the pilot will be more but
->> having been involved in SAR for these units and seen them in action, I
->> can tell you I won't fly my plane on trips without one.
->>
->> I fully agree on the ADB. The real shame of this is that everyone was
->> expecting this announcement to include the FAA final specs on ADS-B in,
->> not just out ADS-B out. "ADS-B in" will have direct benefits and
->> everyone envisioned combined unit boxes. I'm told though that XM and
->> others in the cockpit wx industry are lobbying hard to make sure that
->> the FAA doesn't finalize that any time soon. Shame.
->>
->> Helen
->>
->> On 6/22/2010 1:02 AM, Jeff Francis^(TM) wrote:
->> >
->> >
->> > Passing the cost along to the taxpayer hardly seems the right
->> > solution to the 121.5 vs 406.1 issue. Sure, it's not entirely
->> > reasonable, but at least it's better than the new ADS-B mandate. The
->> > new ELT's are more likely to save your life than the current/old ones,
->> > so there's a (potential) direct benefit. ADS-B amounts to little more
->> > than an enormous new tax for the small aircraft owner, with
->> > essentially zero benefit in return. Not that I agree that the mandate
->> > to eliminate 121.5 ELT's with no notice is a good thing, just that
->> > it's less bad than the ADS-B deal.
->> >
->> >
->> >
->> > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 17:00, Ian R. Garnham <ch2driver@...
->> > <mailto:ch2driver@...>> wrote:
->> >
->> >
->> >
->> >
->> > *FCC BANS 121.5 ELTS
->> > <http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/FCCBans1215ELTs_202760-
-
>1.html>*
->> >
->> >
->> > If the FCC mandates this then they should make provision whereby
->> > the 121.5 units could be traded in for 406/406.1 ( let's wait
->> > until they can decide which frequency they want to use! ) ELT's
->> > and they pickup the difference in cost!
->> >
->> >
->> >
->> >
->> >
->> >
->> >
->> > --
->> > -=jeff=-
->> >
->> >
->> >
->> >
->>
->
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Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group FCC Bans 121.5 ELTs - DO NOT COMPLY

This SNAFU with ELT's is just the latest in a long list of agency screw ups. The FAA is even more notorious for bad rule making. And they seldom if ever correct their mistakes. These agencies are losing credibility and becoming irrelevant. My advice is to ignore bad rules. Do not comply with them. Do what is prudent and reasonable.

--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Helen Woods <Helen_Woods@...> wrote:
>
> As far as tax payers are concerned, they will save with this switch.
> Untold amounts of money will be saved in SAR both during false alarms,
> which unlike with the 121.5 system, generally only require a phone call
> to to deactivate vs. activation of both air and ground SAR resources,
> and of course on actually crashes where the pilot will be located in
> hours rather than a search potentially going on for weeks involving
> massive resources. Yes, the direct cost to the pilot will be more but
> having been involved in SAR for these units and seen them in action, I
> can tell you I won't fly my plane on trips without one.
>
> I fully agree on the ADB. The real shame of this is that everyone was
> expecting this announcement to include the FAA final specs on ADS-B in,
> not just out ADS-B out. "ADS-B in" will have direct benefits and
> everyone envisioned combined unit boxes. I'm told though that XM and
> others in the cockpit wx industry are lobbying hard to make sure that
> the FAA doesn't finalize that any time soon. Shame.
>
> Helen
>
> On 6/22/2010 1:02 AM, Jeff Francis^(TM) wrote:
> >
> >
> > Passing the cost along to the taxpayer hardly seems the right
> > solution to the 121.5 vs 406.1 issue. Sure, it's not entirely
> > reasonable, but at least it's better than the new ADS-B mandate. The
> > new ELT's are more likely to save your life than the current/old ones,
> > so there's a (potential) direct benefit. ADS-B amounts to little more
> > than an enormous new tax for the small aircraft owner, with
> > essentially zero benefit in return. Not that I agree that the mandate
> > to eliminate 121.5 ELT's with no notice is a good thing, just that
> > it's less bad than the ADS-B deal.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 17:00, Ian R. Garnham <ch2driver@...
> > <mailto:ch2driver@...>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *FCC BANS 121.5 ELTS
> > <http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/FCCBans1215ELTs_202760-1.html>*
> >
> >
> > If the FCC mandates this then they should make provision whereby
> > the 121.5 units could be traded in for 406/406.1 ( let's wait
> > until they can decide which frequency they want to use! ) ELT's
> > and they pickup the difference in cost!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > -=jeff=-
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


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Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group FCC Bans 121.5 ELTs



As far as tax payers are concerned, they will save with this switch.  Untold amounts of money will be saved in SAR both during false alarms, which unlike with the 121.5 system, generally only require a phone call to to deactivate vs. activation of both air and ground SAR resources, and of course on actually crashes where the pilot will be located in hours rather than a search potentially going on for weeks involving massive resources.  Yes, the direct cost to the pilot will be more but having been involved in SAR for these units and seen them in action, I can tell you I won't fly my plane on trips without one.

I fully agree on the ADB.  The real shame of this is that everyone was expecting this announcement to include the FAA final specs on ADS-B in, not just out ADS-B out.  "ADS-B in" will have direct benefits and everyone envisioned combined unit boxes.  I'm told though that XM and others in the cockpit wx industry are lobbying hard to make sure that the FAA doesn't finalize that any time soon.  Shame.

Helen

On 6/22/2010 1:02 AM, Jeff Francis™ wrote:
  Passing the cost along to the taxpayer hardly seems the right solution to the 121.5 vs 406.1 issue.  Sure, it's not entirely reasonable, but at least it's better than the new ADS-B mandate.  The new ELT's are more likely to save your life than the current/old ones, so there's a (potential) direct benefit.  ADS-B amounts to little more than an enormous new tax for the small aircraft owner, with essentially zero benefit in return.  Not that I agree that the mandate to eliminate 121.5 ELT's with no notice is a good thing, just that it's less bad than the ADS-B deal.



On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 17:00, Ian R. Garnham <ch2driver@cox.net> wrote:



If the FCC mandates this then they should make provision whereby the 121.5 units could be traded in for 406/406.1  ( let's wait until they can decide which frequency they want to use! ) ELT's and they pickup the difference in cost!







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Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group FCC Bans 121.5 ELTs



  Passing the cost along to the taxpayer hardly seems the right solution to the 121.5 vs 406.1 issue.  Sure, it's not entirely reasonable, but at least it's better than the new ADS-B mandate.  The new ELT's are more likely to save your life than the current/old ones, so there's a (potential) direct benefit.  ADS-B amounts to little more than an enormous new tax for the small aircraft owner, with essentially zero benefit in return.  Not that I agree that the mandate to eliminate 121.5 ELT's with no notice is a good thing, just that it's less bad than the ADS-B deal.



On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 17:00, Ian R. Garnham <ch2driver@cox.net> wrote:



If the FCC mandates this then they should make provision whereby the 121.5 units could be traded in for 406/406.1  ( let's wait until they can decide which frequency they want to use! ) ELT's and they pickup the difference in cost!







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Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: 800 foot RC field flying

Hi Joe,
I started flying trikes in 2001. Went to get private lessons in a Cessna but somehow saw two trikes landing and took an introductory flight on Dec 8 cool evening and the rest is history. Tried flying a 152 later but it bored the crap out of me after flying trikes. It seemed to me like I was not flying ... the machine was flying. That's what is exciting about trikes.
There are positives and negatives to trike flying of course just like everything else but just for the pure fun or recreational value, I will have a hard time taking an airplane over trikes. May be aerobatics with proper training in a Christian Eagle or something but other than that ...
That trike you saw in the video is a high performance state of the art trike.
As for storage (folding) watch the video at our wings page called Reflex 11 folded in less than 8 minutes
http://www.evolutiontrikes.com/wings.htm

Trikes are available as S-LSA as well as E-LSA. Not many trikes are available as 51% Exp-AB.
If you can get an introductory flight in a nice modern trike, don't miss the chance.
Abid
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> Hello
> That was an awesome video. Although I am a "recreational" private pilot I have to admit that I am mainly ignorant of trikes. I remember in the 80's when the ultralights had weight shift designs but thought everything went to "conventional" controls. From watching the video it appears they are stable yet agile and have a fairly wide speed range. I guess with less overall moving parts they are simpler (lighter?) to build/repair and take down and with less moving parts more reliable but again I am just guessing? Are they experimental or light sport?
>
> Joe
>
> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "apollonorthamerica" <apollonorthamerica@> wrote:
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> > http://www.trikepilot.com/videos/view/field-flying-the-revo_9023.html
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> > Abid
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Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group FCC Bans 121.5 ELTs




FCC BANS 121.5 ELTS


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Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group FCC Bans 121.5 ELTs

FCC BANS 121.5 ELTS

The Federal Communications Commission took the general aviation world by surprise when it said in a recent report it will prohibit the sale or use of 121.5 MHz emergency locator transmitters, effective in August. The Aircraft Electronics Association said it just learned of the new rule today, and has begun working with the FAA, FCC and others to allow for timely compliance without grounding thousands of general aviation aircraft. The 121.5 ELTs are allowed under FAA rules. The FCC said its rules have been amended to "prohibit further certification, manufacture, importation, sale or use of 121.5 MHz ELTs." The FCC says that if the 121.5 units are no longer available, aircraft owners and operators will "migrate" to the newer 406.0-406.1 MHz ELTs, which are monitored by satellite, while the 121.5 frequency is not. "Were we to permit continued marketing and use of 121.5 MHz ELTs ... it would engender the risk that aircraft owners and operators would mistakenly rely on those ELTs for the relay of distress alerts," the FCC says. AOPA said today it is opposed to the rule change.

"The FCC is making a regulatory change that would impose an extra cost on GA operators, without properly communicating with the industry or understanding the implications of its action," said AOPA Vice President of Regulatory Affairs Rob Hackman. "There is no FAA requirement to replace 121.5 MHz units with 406 MHz technology. When two government agencies don't coordinate, GA can suffer." The AEA said dealers should refrain from selling any new 121.5 MHz ELTs "until further understanding of this new prohibition can be understood and a realistic timeline for transition can be established."

RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group

This message has been removed from the yahoo list and the person doing it as
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Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: 800 foot RC field flying

Hello
That was an awesome video. Although I am a "recreational" private pilot I have to admit that I am mainly ignorant of trikes. I remember in the 80's when the ultralights had weight shift designs but thought everything went to "conventional" controls. From watching the video it appears they are stable yet agile and have a fairly wide speed range. I guess with less overall moving parts they are simpler (lighter?) to build/repair and take down and with less moving parts more reliable but again I am just guessing? Are they experimental or light sport?

Joe

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Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Transponder

They do the same thing here. In the panel-mount GPS market line, they
bought their only real competition so they wouldn't have any competition.

Helen

On 6/19/2010 12:44 AM, luozheng wrote:
> Thank you,
> But Garmin's products sells more than 5 times prices than USA. Since they found a sole representative in China. I knew some customer buy Garmin's products from USA by friends. I don't know why Garmin still keep this old business type. It is not fair to his customers in China.
>
>
> Luo Zheng
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> http://www.ming-da.com
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>> I think everything in our fleet has Garmin transponders.
>>
>> Helen
>>
>> On 6/10/2010 11:17 PM, luozheng wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We are aircraft instruments manufacturer in China. We are researching low price EFIS now. We want to know what kind of transponders are popular in LSA aircraft. We wish to sell our EFIS to USA and EU markets in future. So we should find a reasonable transponders connecting with our EFIS.
>>>
>>> Thank you for all in advance.
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>>
>>> Luo Zheng
>>> Mingda aircraft instruments
>>> Professional gyros manufacturer
>>> http://www.ming-da.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Thank a lot for Mr. Cliff Cady

He is so kind, professional pilot and pay more patient explaining technical question to us in this group. I am glad there is a so kind person in this group. I wish this group developing very well.

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