Wednesday, June 16, 2010

Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: Statue of Liberty Flight - Final Analysis

--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "apollonorthamerica" <apollonorthamerica@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Dan,
> The day EAA and AOPA start taking their "facts" from a WSJ or any such media reporter, is the day I'd start loosing respect for them.
>
> Wait a sec ... that day already came and went :).

Don't get your shorts in a bunch. Isn't WSJ the most respected newspaper in the country? Don't we hear print journalists always telling us that the Internet is crap and only they the pros can get it right and be trusted? Of course that's not true. Media outlets get by with this kind of stuff with the caveat "WSJ reported etc."


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> We expect more out of supposed aviation specific org media. There is no excuse for their looseness of reporting. None.

None? We should be careful how we use the word "they". I did it myself.

How about e-Brief the daily from AOPA is written by one guy with no help, no research staff, and a daily deadline. Something must go out. Unfortunately the writers are from GA and hold all the usual justified prejudices about ultralights. The news report from WSJ is all too believable in their view. The sin is then to embellish and add commentary but that's what the owners want. He is not just supposed to be a stenographer so he adds stuff which seems right to him (or her).

EAA's e-Hotline is a weekly but a similar one man staff is tasked to put out 9 or 10 different newsletters per month or 2-3 per week while up to his ears in alligators and understaffed because everybody wants to keep costs down. I too cringed when I read the inference that there was an "airspace incursion". It didn't help that everybody printed Barry's offhanded quote about not being aware of the heighten security in and around lower Manhattan. It sounded like an admission that he was not fully briefed (of course false).


> I don't see why Barry flying completely legally like a helicopter would in that area is "not" prudent.

The evidence is right there in the outcome.

Is it more prudent to be at 1000 feet like he was 2 days before and felt he was causing a dangerous situation because he can slow down to 50 MPH while the other traffic in the corridor at that altitude is going at 100 knots?

No he was fine right where he was. That is where he should be if he wants to circle the island, there is no circling in the upper corridor. Actually circling like the helicopters might have been better than flying straight at it and pulling away at the last moment. Barry didn't fully realize that a lot of people are still traumatized by the 911 attack. I looked up Liberty Island on my Topo USA computer program. It is 600 feet wide and 1200 feet long. The statue is less than 300 feet from the waterline on the south side. It would have been prudent to give it a little more room and perhaps shoot the pictures with a tele or let someone know he was coming but that's just my opinion.

Luckily I get to tell the story next month in EAA Light Plane World and I have the benefit of all the commentary here and from a long talk with Barry. I'm on his side and plan to hit hard on the media for their reporting. Unfortunately millions heard and will remember that an "ultralight buzzed the statue of liberty" but only 20 thousand or so will read the real story in LPW.

--dan grunloh


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> That's when he decided that if he would fly at slow trim he would create a better safety situation to go down to the 500 feet level and fly with some helis.
>
> His other option of course was to set his trim to fastest position and fly at 78 knots but he was interested in seeing and enjoying the view.
>
> Abid
>
> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "dangrunloh" <dgrunloh@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "apollonorthamerica" <apollonorthamerica@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Its Official. The NY Flight Standards Office informed Barry Maggio that the matter has been put to rest and that the park police was unaware of the new rules that took effect on April 2, 2010 for trikes that allow trikes to fly like helicopters at lower altitudes than airplanes.
> > >
> > > Also they confirmed that Barry never went over any land on that island and was always on water. Park police is now aware of the new rules.
> > > Abid
> >
> >
> > I'm also been talking to Barry and also got that info from him today. Will have photos and story in July EAA Light Plane World. Legal but perhaps not prudent. All might have been avoided if he had notified park officials of his plan.
> >
> > The fiasco with the media comes from believing details without question because the report came from WSJ. Even the aviation media was suckered. The "intercept" is a hoot. Barry saw the then unidentified NYCPD craft behind him on his PCAS display and actually called them first.
> >
> > Initial report blamed on a park employee who had never seen an "ultralight" flying where the helicopters are usually seen.
> >
> > Barry said news blog posters were saying he should have been shot down
> > and he was not fit to ride a bicycle let alone fly a plane. It's a feeding frenzy out there.
> >
> > --dan grunloh
> >
>


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