Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group the Blame Game

Hi Richard
come on man. Which 2 seater exempt trainer UL was $5000 in 2003. And which BFI was charging $50/hour including rental if the aircraft in a decently maintained trainer

I know that in 2002 cosmos 912 trike with some options cost $40000 and it was not as good as trikes you get today with a 912.

I remember us charging $125/hour in 2003 and kemmries charged $150/hour
abid

--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Williams" <rkwill@...> wrote:
>
> tade,
>
> IMO: you have missed the mark.
>
> The base line for flying expense is NOT GA/private pilot
> The base line for flying expense is UL/no license.
> A UL often cost less than $5000.
> A license was not required nor needed.
> Training was highly recommended.
> Training was ~50hr, including the UL (wet) and instructor.
>
> Those numbers ($5000 and $50) are what you need to be comparing against.
>
> R. Williams
>
>
> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From: "tadel001" <tadel001@...>
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:51:33 -0000
> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group the Blame Game
>
> > I often hear the argument that SP did not make flying cheaper because
> > the planes cost over $100K. People seem to be upset with the fact
> > that aircraft cost over $100K and therefore, SP failed to deliver.
> > First, if the dollar and euro were at the same 2004 levels, there
> > would be many aircraft under $100K. To simply look at the dollar as
> > the valuation mark is short sighted. Many of these LSAs listed in
> > Euro are less than $100K.
> >
> > SP actually has made it a lot cheaper to fly. The numbers are
> > actually about 50-60% cheaper. The average private pilot license cost
> > $8,000 to $12,000. Our school can produce pilots between $3,500 and
> > $5,000. So the person that couldn't afford a $12,000 license can now
> > get a license for under $5,000. I would say that is a huge savings.
> > That person can now rent an airplane. At a $7,000 savings on the
> > license and an average rental rate across the country of $100/hour,
> > that is 70 additional hours of flying (which is a lot for the average
> > pilot in a year). Now if you own the aircraft, you need to think
> > about insurance, storage, maintenance, etc... on a $60,000 aircraft
> > that could be another $5K-$7K a year. So, that is renting a plane for
> > 50-70 hours a year. I would say that SP has made flying a lot cheaper.
> >
> > I don't think the advertisement was "Sport Pilot Rule will make owning
> > an aircraft cheaper for all." I think the advertisemetn was "Sport
> > Pilot Rule will make flying more affordable." At 50-60% less cost to
> > fly, I would say it did that.
> ------- End of Original Message -------
>

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