...well we'll see, I'm not going near a Doc yet, some folks gave me some leads on docs you can speak with off the record to get an opinion on the speech, if he could understand me on the phone that should answer that...but now I'm concerned about them being weary of cancer survivors. I would not take the wife with me in the plane if I felt ANY concerns for my ability or health in the air, so I was not trying to avoid anything at all...just loved the LSA plane, Remos..being trained and flying only Cessna I prefer high wing and it's roomy, great for 3-4 hr cross..and Loran/VOR was my last nav aid :)...God that's sad...so I want to play with the new toys besides the joy of flying....base to final is the 2nd best feeling in the world and damn it I miss it and now have the time and money (well mostly) to get back in the saddle....thanks for your views !
Jim
From: Ralph Steen <muleflyer@yahoo.com>
To: "Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com" <Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
If you have a PPL and a drivers license then you have a SP ticket. The speech issue can be handled by staying away from ATC, if the DPE could understand you to discuss the issue then you should be able to give position reportsaround the airport via radio so ATC might not be a problem . I had a class 111 issue,Stay away from the FAA.Get up to speed on the flying with a CFI, do a BFR and then you are good to go. Your PPL does not expire, no Class111 you are a Sport Pilot, go fly have fun. Keep the pointy end forward and the greasy side down.
From: Jim Shanahan <jimshanahan707@yahoo.com>
To: "Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com" <Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
To: "Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com" <Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
...my typo...SP NOT SA...the regs for SA require you speak English, my speech is not as clear as a normal English speaking
person's...I can make myself understood with few problems. This area has caused the FAA examiner I spoke with to call the FAA for their opinion on the speech requirement for ANY lic, SP included...the FAA told him they would request a 3rd class medical ONE time and only one time,to get the SP lic.,
From: apollonorthamerica <apollonorthamerica@yahoo.com>
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
What is SA?
Sport Pilot license (SP) does not require a 3rd class medical. You use the driver's license and your common sense decision making as your medical. FAA can't tell you you need a 3rd class medical for SP unless you have "failed" that medical before.
If you have failed then yes of course now they know you had a problem and won't allow you to just use your driver's license as medical. You have to get the 3rd class medical back. This is how its always been
Abid
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Jim Shanahan <jimshanahan707@...> wrote:
>
> ...the FAA wants me to pass a 3rd class BEFORE any lic will be granted, SA or private. I was going for the SA to avoid the whole medical thing in the first place. I have no doubt about passing EXCEPT for the speech. What I'm kicking around is should I skip the SA and just do the check ride for private? It appears the FAA wants me to qualify,medically, for private before they will issue SA ! I will get the medical regardless, I was just asking IF you qualify for a private SEL w/a 3rd class medical, why would you fly SA? The planes are newer, nicer, slower, less passengers, cheaper(little) to rent and the older planes are known strength/weaknesses. I have not flown in years so I am planning on a lot of rust in flying and a lot of ground school time for either license. The FAA wants me to have a valid 3rd class medical before they will issue the SA. My local FAA examiner wanted FAA's opinion due to the speech, which BTW he understood as we spoke about
> this. So now the FAA is involved and wants the medical. OK, I have no problem with that, well I do a bit but so what. The FAA said they only want me to pass this time, no need to keep a valid medical with the SA lic. They want a doc to say my speech is within the limits they set. The examiner wants someone else to say my speech is ok. Thanks for all the advise of my situation and misquoting dead people :).
>
> Â
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Richard Williams <rkwill@...>
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 9:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
>
>
> Â
> Bobs,
>
> You have never failed a 3rd class medical, so why take the risk now, after cancer?
>
> You know the FAA will make you jump through hoops for months and $$$ on end to
> get that 3rd class medical after cancer.
>
> You already meet all the requirements for going LSA.
> Most importantly, you already have your PPL, so no need for 20+ hours of
> training. Although I would strongly suggest that you get some
> training/transition time with an instructor in the LSA aircraft that you will be
> flying to get you back up to speed on flying and familiar with all the latest
> rules and regulations.
>
> R. Williams
>
> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From: "Bobs" <jimshanahan707@...>
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 00:38:20 -0000
> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
>
> > Ok, I had my private SEL,VFR with a valid medical. Three kids,college,
> > life and no $$$, so I had to stop flying. Almost 20 yrs later and I
> > want to fly again. I am 1 yr from a cancer cure, 4 yrs of clean tests
> > from tongue cancer. The Cancer is all gone BUT left me with some
> > speech limitations, so I am thinking LSA. The FAA wants me to pass a
> > 3rd class medical 1 time, and a LSA lic is no problem with NO future
> > medicals needed. SO, if I can get a 3rd class medical, why would I
> > want the LSA rating?. I can buy a super clean used Piper 180 for half
> > the cost of a new LSA. The rentals of LSAs are $5 @ hr less than a 172
> > !. I will take the medical, hopefully pass, but then should I go LSA
> > of just my private? Would like some opinions as I just keep going
> > round and round in my own mind...thanks Bob
> ------- End of Original Message -------
>
Sport Pilot license (SP) does not require a 3rd class medical. You use the driver's license and your common sense decision making as your medical. FAA can't tell you you need a 3rd class medical for SP unless you have "failed" that medical before.
If you have failed then yes of course now they know you had a problem and won't allow you to just use your driver's license as medical. You have to get the 3rd class medical back. This is how its always been
Abid
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Jim Shanahan <jimshanahan707@...> wrote:
>
> ...the FAA wants me to pass a 3rd class BEFORE any lic will be granted, SA or private. I was going for the SA to avoid the whole medical thing in the first place. I have no doubt about passing EXCEPT for the speech. What I'm kicking around is should I skip the SA and just do the check ride for private? It appears the FAA wants me to qualify,medically, for private before they will issue SA ! I will get the medical regardless, I was just asking IF you qualify for a private SEL w/a 3rd class medical, why would you fly SA? The planes are newer, nicer, slower, less passengers, cheaper(little) to rent and the older planes are known strength/weaknesses. I have not flown in years so I am planning on a lot of rust in flying and a lot of ground school time for either license. The FAA wants me to have a valid 3rd class medical before they will issue the SA. My local FAA examiner wanted FAA's opinion due to the speech, which BTW he understood as we spoke about
> this. So now the FAA is involved and wants the medical. OK, I have no problem with that, well I do a bit but so what. The FAA said they only want me to pass this time, no need to keep a valid medical with the SA lic. They want a doc to say my speech is within the limits they set. The examiner wants someone else to say my speech is ok. Thanks for all the advise of my situation and misquoting dead people :).
>
> Â
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Richard Williams <rkwill@...>
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 9:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
>
>
> Â
> Bobs,
>
> You have never failed a 3rd class medical, so why take the risk now, after cancer?
>
> You know the FAA will make you jump through hoops for months and $$$ on end to
> get that 3rd class medical after cancer.
>
> You already meet all the requirements for going LSA.
> Most importantly, you already have your PPL, so no need for 20+ hours of
> training. Although I would strongly suggest that you get some
> training/transition time with an instructor in the LSA aircraft that you will be
> flying to get you back up to speed on flying and familiar with all the latest
> rules and regulations.
>
> R. Williams
>
> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From: "Bobs" <jimshanahan707@...>
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 00:38:20 -0000
> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
>
> > Ok, I had my private SEL,VFR with a valid medical. Three kids,college,
> > life and no $$$, so I had to stop flying. Almost 20 yrs later and I
> > want to fly again. I am 1 yr from a cancer cure, 4 yrs of clean tests
> > from tongue cancer. The Cancer is all gone BUT left me with some
> > speech limitations, so I am thinking LSA. The FAA wants me to pass a
> > 3rd class medical 1 time, and a LSA lic is no problem with NO future
> > medicals needed. SO, if I can get a 3rd class medical, why would I
> > want the LSA rating?. I can buy a super clean used Piper 180 for half
> > the cost of a new LSA. The rentals of LSAs are $5 @ hr less than a 172
> > !. I will take the medical, hopefully pass, but then should I go LSA
> > of just my private? Would like some opinions as I just keep going
> > round and round in my own mind...thanks Bob
> ------- End of Original Message -------
>
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