..well that's what I thought also...until 2 weeks ago when he informed me of this....thanks for taking the time!
Jim
From: UltraJohn <japrice@mindspring.com>
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
Plain and simple your examiner is WRONG!
You did not fail a medical and it does not matter how long it is since you had
your last! You can fly with a private license under the restrictions of an SP
(no you are not a SP pilot, your still a Private pilot) pilot. All you need is
a currency check-ride...
John
On Saturday 15 October 2011 01:26:03 pm Jim Shanahan wrote:
> Ok, I NEVER failed or failed to complete ANY medical...I just stopped
> flying for 20 years. The examiner in my area felt that the FAA regs
> require you understand English and can speak it, my prior medical problem
> has caused some speech limitations. According to him the FAA wants me to
> pass a 3rd class medical ONCE and only once for a SP ticket. I would NOT
> have to renew my medical to keep the SP current in the future. This is all
> about speech PERIOD. My question was IF I have a valid 3rd class...why
> would a SP be better than a private? If I go with the private I can fly
> SA...According to my examiner the FAA wants the medical,I do not have a
> choice if I want to fly anything. I have not formally applied for anything
> yet, this is all oral so far. My thinking was it's better to have the
> private as I have more choices BUT wanted some other opinions...
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Roger Poyner <rogpoyn@yahoo.com>
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 2:51 PM
> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
>
>
>
> More commonly when you say the FAA you are talking about one person that
> you talked to. This one sounds like the FAA crash dummy. By their own
> rules they can't require you to get a third class medical to fly as a
> sport pilot.
>
> --- On Fri, 10/14/11, Jim Bair <jimbair@live.com> wrote:
> >From: Jim Bair <jimbair@live.com>
> >Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
> >To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> >Date: Friday, October 14, 2011, 6:42 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >I am not understanding this but maybe I missed something in the thread.
> > Have you ever not passed a physical? Did you start one and then the doc
> > couldn't issue it? Have you had a physical revoked? As far as I know,
> > if the answers to all those questions are "No", then you can fly as a SP
> > simply using a drivers license. I also don't understand exactly what you
> > mean by SA. Sport Aircraft? If so, a Private Pilot can have many
> > reasons for flying a LSA. Personal choice. Many guys owned Cubs,
> > Taylorcrafts, and Champs before SP came along. (Me for one.) Why are
> > you going to the FAA for a SP rating? Will they even do that? I thought
> > they had turned all that over to DPEs. Something isn't making sense
> > here. You may have opened a really unnecessary bucket of worms by asking
> > the FAA a question that didn't need to be asked. This is why I always
> > recommend talking to an examiner and letting him call the FAA for you and
> > he can
>
> then say, "Hypothetically speaking, if I know this guy who......" I done
> that for people.
>
> >
> >Jim
> >
> >From: Jim Shanahan
> >Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:22 AM
> >To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
> >
> >
> >...the FAA wants me to pass a 3rd class BEFORE any lic will be granted, SA
> > or private. I was going for the SA to avoid the whole medical thing in
> > the first place. I have no doubt about passing EXCEPT for the speech.
> > What I'm kicking around is should I skip the SA and just do the check
> > ride for private? It appears the FAA wants me to qualify,medically, for
> > private before they will issue SA ! I will get the medical regardless, I
> > was just asking IF you qualify for a private SEL w/a 3rd class medical,
> > why would you fly SA? The planes are newer, nicer, slower, less
> > passengers, cheaper(little) to rent and the older planes are known
> > strength/weaknesses. I have not flown in years so I am planning on a lot
> > of rust in flying and a lot of ground school time for either license.
> > The FAA wants me to have a valid 3rd class medical before they will issue
> > the SA. My local FAA examiner wanted FAA's opinion due to the speech,
> > which BTW he understood as we spoke about
>
> this. So now the FAA is involved and wants the medical. OK, I have no
> problem with that, well I do a bit but so what. The FAA said they only
> want me to pass this time, no need to keep a valid medical with the SA
> lic. They want a doc to say my speech is within the limits they set. The
> examiner wants someone else to say my speech is ok. Thanks for all the
> advise of my situation and misquoting dead people :).
>
> >
> >
> >>________________________________
> >
> >________________________________
> > From: Richard Williams <rkwill@lewiscounty.com>
> >To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 9:13 PM
> >Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
> >
> >
> >
> >Bobs,
> >
> >You have never failed a 3rd class medical, so why take the risk now, after
> > cancer?
> >
> >You know the FAA will make you jump through hoops for months and $$$ on
> > end to get that 3rd class medical after cancer.
> >
> >You already meet all the requirements for going LSA.
> >Most importantly, you already have your PPL, so no need for 20+ hours of
> >training. Although I would strongly suggest that you get some
> >training/transition time with an instructor in the LSA aircraft that you
> > will be flying to get you back up to speed on flying and familiar with
> > all the latest rules and regulations.
> >
> >R. Williams
> >
> >---------- Original Message -----------
> >From: "Bobs" <mailto:jimshanahan707%40yahoo.com>
> >To: mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 00:38:20 -0000
> >Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
> >
> >> Ok, I had my private SEL,VFR with a valid medical. Three kids,college,
> >> life and no $$$, so I had to stop flying. Almost 20 yrs later and I
> >> want to fly again. I am 1 yr from a cancer cure, 4 yrs of clean tests
> >> from tongue cancer. The Cancer is all gone BUT left me with some
> >> speech limitations, so I am thinking LSA. The FAA wants me to pass a
> >> 3rd class medical 1 time, and a LSA lic is no problem with NO future
> >> medicals needed. SO, if I can get a 3rd class medical, why would I
> >> want the LSA rating?. I can buy a super clean used Piper 180 for half
> >> the cost of a new LSA.
>
> The rentals of LSAs are $5 @ hr less than a 172
>
> >> !. I will take the medical, hopefully pass, but then should I go LSA
> >> of just my private? Would like some opinions as I just keep going
> >> round and round in my own mind...thanks Bob
> >
> >------- End of Original Message -------
>
You did not fail a medical and it does not matter how long it is since you had
your last! You can fly with a private license under the restrictions of an SP
(no you are not a SP pilot, your still a Private pilot) pilot. All you need is
a currency check-ride...
John
On Saturday 15 October 2011 01:26:03 pm Jim Shanahan wrote:
> Ok, I NEVER failed or failed to complete ANY medical...I just stopped
> flying for 20 years. The examiner in my area felt that the FAA regs
> require you understand English and can speak it, my prior medical problem
> has caused some speech limitations. According to him the FAA wants me to
> pass a 3rd class medical ONCE and only once for a SP ticket. I would NOT
> have to renew my medical to keep the SP current in the future. This is all
> about speech PERIOD. My question was IF I have a valid 3rd class...why
> would a SP be better than a private? If I go with the private I can fly
> SA...According to my examiner the FAA wants the medical,I do not have a
> choice if I want to fly anything. I have not formally applied for anything
> yet, this is all oral so far. My thinking was it's better to have the
> private as I have more choices BUT wanted some other opinions...
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Roger Poyner <rogpoyn@yahoo.com>
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 2:51 PM
> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
>
>
>
> More commonly when you say the FAA you are talking about one person that
> you talked to. This one sounds like the FAA crash dummy. By their own
> rules they can't require you to get a third class medical to fly as a
> sport pilot.
>
> --- On Fri, 10/14/11, Jim Bair <jimbair@live.com> wrote:
> >From: Jim Bair <jimbair@live.com>
> >Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
> >To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> >Date: Friday, October 14, 2011, 6:42 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >I am not understanding this but maybe I missed something in the thread.
> > Have you ever not passed a physical? Did you start one and then the doc
> > couldn't issue it? Have you had a physical revoked? As far as I know,
> > if the answers to all those questions are "No", then you can fly as a SP
> > simply using a drivers license. I also don't understand exactly what you
> > mean by SA. Sport Aircraft? If so, a Private Pilot can have many
> > reasons for flying a LSA. Personal choice. Many guys owned Cubs,
> > Taylorcrafts, and Champs before SP came along. (Me for one.) Why are
> > you going to the FAA for a SP rating? Will they even do that? I thought
> > they had turned all that over to DPEs. Something isn't making sense
> > here. You may have opened a really unnecessary bucket of worms by asking
> > the FAA a question that didn't need to be asked. This is why I always
> > recommend talking to an examiner and letting him call the FAA for you and
> > he can
>
> then say, "Hypothetically speaking, if I know this guy who......" I done
> that for people.
>
> >
> >Jim
> >
> >From: Jim Shanahan
> >Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:22 AM
> >To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
> >
> >
> >...the FAA wants me to pass a 3rd class BEFORE any lic will be granted, SA
> > or private. I was going for the SA to avoid the whole medical thing in
> > the first place. I have no doubt about passing EXCEPT for the speech.
> > What I'm kicking around is should I skip the SA and just do the check
> > ride for private? It appears the FAA wants me to qualify,medically, for
> > private before they will issue SA ! I will get the medical regardless, I
> > was just asking IF you qualify for a private SEL w/a 3rd class medical,
> > why would you fly SA? The planes are newer, nicer, slower, less
> > passengers, cheaper(little) to rent and the older planes are known
> > strength/weaknesses. I have not flown in years so I am planning on a lot
> > of rust in flying and a lot of ground school time for either license.
> > The FAA wants me to have a valid 3rd class medical before they will issue
> > the SA. My local FAA examiner wanted FAA's opinion due to the speech,
> > which BTW he understood as we spoke about
>
> this. So now the FAA is involved and wants the medical. OK, I have no
> problem with that, well I do a bit but so what. The FAA said they only
> want me to pass this time, no need to keep a valid medical with the SA
> lic. They want a doc to say my speech is within the limits they set. The
> examiner wants someone else to say my speech is ok. Thanks for all the
> advise of my situation and misquoting dead people :).
>
> >
> >
> >>________________________________
> >
> >________________________________
> > From: Richard Williams <rkwill@lewiscounty.com>
> >To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 9:13 PM
> >Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
> >
> >
> >
> >Bobs,
> >
> >You have never failed a 3rd class medical, so why take the risk now, after
> > cancer?
> >
> >You know the FAA will make you jump through hoops for months and $$$ on
> > end to get that 3rd class medical after cancer.
> >
> >You already meet all the requirements for going LSA.
> >Most importantly, you already have your PPL, so no need for 20+ hours of
> >training. Although I would strongly suggest that you get some
> >training/transition time with an instructor in the LSA aircraft that you
> > will be flying to get you back up to speed on flying and familiar with
> > all the latest rules and regulations.
> >
> >R. Williams
> >
> >---------- Original Message -----------
> >From: "Bobs" <mailto:jimshanahan707%40yahoo.com>
> >To: mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 00:38:20 -0000
> >Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
> >
> >> Ok, I had my private SEL,VFR with a valid medical. Three kids,college,
> >> life and no $$$, so I had to stop flying. Almost 20 yrs later and I
> >> want to fly again. I am 1 yr from a cancer cure, 4 yrs of clean tests
> >> from tongue cancer. The Cancer is all gone BUT left me with some
> >> speech limitations, so I am thinking LSA. The FAA wants me to pass a
> >> 3rd class medical 1 time, and a LSA lic is no problem with NO future
> >> medicals needed. SO, if I can get a 3rd class medical, why would I
> >> want the LSA rating?. I can buy a super clean used Piper 180 for half
> >> the cost of a new LSA.
>
> The rentals of LSAs are $5 @ hr less than a 172
>
> >> !. I will take the medical, hopefully pass, but then should I go LSA
> >> of just my private? Would like some opinions as I just keep going
> >> round and round in my own mind...thanks Bob
> >
> >------- End of Original Message -------
>
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