training driving the ATC crazy trying to understand them.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Bair <jimbair@live.com>
To: Sport_Aircraft <Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Oct 15, 2011 11:29 am
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
My opinions:
1. I think your examiner is wrong. I have never seen anything in the
regs that says the FAA will require a medical. Yes, there is a
question on the 8710-11 that covers the English speaking requirement.
You fill it out as you think it should be filled out. I suspect that
you speak well enough to get a drivers license, therefore....
2. SP is better than private for those people who do not want to get
(or can't get) a medic B.al.
3. Yes, with a PP you can fly all LSA, with PP privileges and with SP
privileges after your medical expires.
Personally, if flying fixed wing and I could get a medical, I would
definitely go PP because you have many more options as to what to fly.
But that's just me. Opinions vary. Some people have no desire to have
the option to fly a 4 seater, or get an instrument rating, etc.
Jim B.
From: Jim Shanahan
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 12:26 PM
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
Ok, I NEVER failed or failed to complete ANY medical...I just stopped
flying for 20 years. The examiner in my area felt that the FAA regs
require you understand English and can speak it, my prior medical
problem has caused some speech limitations. According to him the FAA
wants me to pass a 3rd class medical ONCE and only once for a SP
ticket. I would NOT have to renew my medical to keep the SP current in
the future. This is all about speech PERIOD. My question was IF I have
a valid 3rd class...why would a SP be better than a private? If I go
with the private I can fly SA...According to my examiner the FAA wants
the medical,I do not have a choice if I want to fly anything. I have
not formally applied for anything yet, this is all oral so far. My
thinking was it's better to have the private as I have more choices BUT
wanted some other opinions...
From: Roger Poyner <rogpoyn@yahoo.com>
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
More commonly when you say the FAA you are talking about
one person that you talked to. This one sounds like the FAA crash
dummy. By their own rules they can't require you to get a third
class medical to fly as a sport pilot.
--- On Fri, 10/14/11, Jim Bair <jimbair@live.com> wrote:
From: Jim Bair <jimbair@live.com>
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 14, 2011, 6:42 PM
I am not
understanding this but maybe I missed something in the thread.
Have you ever not passed a physical? Did you start one and
then the doc couldn't issue it? Have you had a physical
revoked? As far as I know, if the answers to all those questions
are "No", then you can fly as a SP simply using a drivers license.
I also don't understand exactly what you mean by SA. Sport
Aircraft? If so, a Private Pilot can have many reasons for flying
a LSA. Personal choice. Many guys owned Cubs, Taylorcrafts,
and Champs before SP came along. (Me for one.) Why are you
going to the FAA for a SP rating? Will they even do that? I
thought they had turned all that over to DPEs. Something isn't
making sense here. You may have opened a really unnecessary bucket
of worms by asking the FAA a question that didn't need to be
asked. This is why I always recommend talking to an examiner and
letting him call the FAA for you and he can then say,
"Hypothetically speaking, if I know this guy who......" I done
that for people.
Jim
From: Jim Shanahan
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:22 AM
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class
medical
...the FAA wants me to pass a
3rd class BEFORE any lic will be granted, SA or private. I was
going for the SA to avoid the whole medical thing in the first
place. I have no doubt about passing EXCEPT for the speech.
What I'm kicking around is should I skip the SA and just do the
check ride for private? It appears the FAA wants me to
qualify,medically, for private before they will issue SA ! I will get
the medical regardless, I was just asking IF you qualify for a
private SEL w/a 3rd class medical, why would you fly SA? The
planes are newer, nicer, slower, less passengers,
cheaper(little) to rent and the older planes are known
strength/weaknesses. I have not flown in years so I am planning
on a lot of rust in flying and a lot of ground school time for
either license. The FAA wants me to have a valid 3rd class
medical before they will issue the SA. My local FAA examiner wanted
FAA's opinion due to the speech, which BTW he understood as we
spoke about this. So now the FAA is involved and wants the
medical. OK, I have no problem with that, well I do a bit but
so what. The FAA said they only want me to pass this time, no
need to keep a valid medical with the SA lic. They want a doc
to say my speech is within the limits they set. The examiner
wants someone else to say my speech is ok. Thanks for all the
advise of my situation and misquoting dead people :).
From: Richard Williams
<rkwill@lewiscounty.com>
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
Bobs,
You have never failed a 3rd class medical, so why take the risk
now, after cancer?
You know the FAA will make you jump through hoops for months
and $$$ on end to
get that 3rd class medical after cancer.
You already meet all the requirements for going LSA.
Most importantly, you already have your PPL, so no need for 20+
hours of
training. Although I would strongly suggest that you get some
training/transition time with an instructor in the LSA aircraft
that you will be
flying to get you back up to speed on flying and familiar with
all the latest
rules and regulations.
R. Williams
---------- Original Message -----------
From: "Bobs" <mailto:jimshanahan707%40yahoo.com>
To: mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 00:38:20 -0000
Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
> Ok, I had my private SEL,VFR with a valid medical. Three
kids,college,
> life and no $$$, so I had to stop flying. Almost 20 yrs
later and I
> want to fly again. I am 1 yr from a cancer cure, 4 yrs of
clean tests
> from tongue cancer. The Cancer is all gone BUT left me
with some
> speech limitations, so I am thinking LSA. The FAA wants me
to pass a
> 3rd class medical 1 time, and a LSA lic is no problem with
NO future
> medicals needed. SO, if I can get a 3rd class medical, why
would I
> want the LSA rating?. I can buy a super clean used Piper
180 for half
> the cost of a new LSA. The rentals of LSAs are $5 @ hr
less than a 172
> !. I will take the medical, hopefully pass, but then
should I go LSA
> of just my private? Would like some opinions as I just
keep going
> round and round in my own mind...thanks Bob
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