Saturday, October 15, 2011

Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical



...thanks Jim..
 

From: Jim Bair <jimbair@live.com>
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical

 
My opinions:
1.  I think your examiner is wrong.  I have never seen anything in the regs that says the FAA will require a medical.  Yes, there is a question on the 8710-11 that covers the English speaking requirement.  You fill it out as you think it should be filled out.  I suspect that you speak well enough to get a drivers license, therefore....
2.  SP is better than private for those people who do not want to get (or can't get) a medic B.al. 
3.  Yes, with a PP you can fly all LSA, with PP privileges and with SP privileges after your medical expires.
 
Personally, if flying fixed wing and I could get a medical, I would definitely go PP because you have many more options as to what to fly.  But that's just me.  Opinions vary.  Some people have no desire to have the option to fly a 4 seater, or get an instrument rating, etc.
 
Jim B.
 
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
 
 
Ok, I NEVER failed or failed to complete ANY medical...I just stopped flying for 20 years. The examiner in my area felt that the FAA regs require you understand English and can speak it, my prior medical problem has caused some speech limitations. According to him the FAA wants me to pass a 3rd class medical ONCE and only once for a SP ticket. I would NOT have to renew my medical to keep the SP current in the future. This is all about speech PERIOD. My question was IF I have a valid 3rd class...why would a SP be better than a private? If I go with the private I can fly SA...According to my examiner the FAA wants the medical,I do not have a choice if I want to fly anything. I have not formally applied for anything yet, this is all oral so far. My thinking was it's better to have the private as I have more choices BUT wanted some other opinions...
 



From: Roger Poyner <rogpoyn@yahoo.com>
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical

 
More commonly when you say the FAA you are talking about one person that you talked to.  This one sounds like the FAA crash dummy.  By their own rules they can't require you to get a third class medical to fly as a sport pilot.

--- On Fri, 10/14/11, Jim Bair <jimbair@live.com> wrote:

From: Jim Bair <jimbair@live.com>
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 14, 2011, 6:42 PM

 
I am not understanding this but maybe I missed something in the thread.  Have you ever not passed a physical?  Did you start one and then the doc couldn't issue it?  Have you had a physical revoked?  As far as I know, if the answers to all those questions are "No", then you can fly as a SP simply using a drivers license.  I also don't understand exactly what you mean by SA.  Sport Aircraft?  If so, a Private Pilot can have many reasons for flying a LSA.  Personal choice.  Many guys owned Cubs, Taylorcrafts, and Champs before SP came along.  (Me for one.)  Why are you going to the FAA for a SP rating?  Will they even do that?  I thought they had turned all that over to DPEs.  Something isn't making sense here.  You may have opened a really unnecessary bucket of worms by asking the FAA a question that didn't need to be asked.  This is why I always recommend talking to an examiner and letting him call the FAA for you and he can then say, "Hypothetically speaking, if I know this guy who......"  I done that for people. 
 
Jim
 
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical
 
 
...the FAA wants me to pass a 3rd class BEFORE any lic will be granted, SA or private. I was going for the SA to avoid the whole medical thing in the first place. I have no doubt about passing EXCEPT for the speech. What I'm kicking around is should I skip the SA and just do the check ride for private? It appears the FAA wants me to qualify,medically, for private before they will issue SA ! I will get the medical regardless, I was just asking IF you qualify for a private SEL w/a 3rd  class medical, why would you fly SA? The planes are newer, nicer, slower, less passengers, cheaper(little) to rent and the older planes are known strength/weaknesses. I have not flown in years so I am planning on a lot of rust in flying and a lot of ground school time for either license.  The FAA wants me to have a valid 3rd class medical before they will issue the SA. My local FAA examiner wanted FAA's opinion due to the speech, which BTW he understood as we spoke about this. So now the FAA is involved and wants the medical. OK, I have no problem with that, well I do a bit but so what. The FAA said they only want me to pass this time, no need to keep a valid medical with the SA lic. They want a doc to say my speech is within the limits they set. The examiner wants someone else to say my speech is ok. Thanks for all the advise of my situation and misquoting dead people :).
 


From: Richard Williams <rkwill@lewiscounty.com>
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical

 
Bobs,

You have never failed a 3rd class medical, so why take the risk now, after cancer?

You know the FAA will make you jump through hoops for months and $$$ on end to
get that 3rd class medical after cancer.

You already meet all the requirements for going LSA.
Most importantly, you already have your PPL, so no need for 20+ hours of
training. Although I would strongly suggest that you get some
training/transition time with an instructor in the LSA aircraft that you will be
flying to get you back up to speed on flying and familiar with all the latest
rules and regulations.

R. Williams

---------- Original Message -----------
From: "Bobs" <mailto:jimshanahan707%40yahoo.com>
To: mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 00:38:20 -0000
Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group 3rd Class medical

> Ok, I had my private SEL,VFR with a valid medical. Three kids,college,
> life and no $$$, so I had to stop flying. Almost 20 yrs later and I
> want to fly again. I am 1 yr from a cancer cure, 4 yrs of clean tests
> from tongue cancer. The Cancer is all gone BUT left me with some
> speech limitations, so I am thinking LSA. The FAA wants me to pass a
> 3rd class medical 1 time, and a LSA lic is no problem with NO future
> medicals needed. SO, if I can get a 3rd class medical, why would I
> want the LSA rating?. I can buy a super clean used Piper 180 for half
> the cost of a new LSA. The rentals of LSAs are $5 @ hr less than a 172
> !. I will take the medical, hopefully pass, but then should I go LSA
> of just my private? Would like some opinions as I just keep going
> round and round in my own mind...thanks Bob
------- End of Original Message -------









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