RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Keeping Current

Jim,

I got the 100 hours from the days of part 103 UL, before the silliness of LSA/SP
came along.
In those days, an instructor was expected to have 100+ hours in their two seat
UL, along with the principals of instruction course before taking a student aloft.

(lets not get into those that were selling instructor certificates at $40 a pop.)

R. Williams

---------- Original Message -----------
From: Jim Bair <jimbair@live.com>
To: "Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com" <Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 21:08:49 +0000
Subject: RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Keeping Current

> I understand the importance of safety and the value of experience, but
> I am not sure what your justification is for recommending 100 hours as
> the standard. If that was the case, that a person should have 100
> hours to be permitted to carry a passenger, then the standard would
> reflect that. When I am acting in my role as DPE, a criterion I have
> in the back of my head as I am evaluating someone is whether or not
> they fly well enough and exercise the judgment I would want a pilot to
> possess to take one of my family members, or yours, or his own, for a
> ride. The PTS is designed to a standard that if a person can meet it,
> he flies well enough to meet the standard to carry a passenger. Is he
> as good, as experienced, as he will ever be? Of course not. Should
> he exercise good judgment in evaluating conditions? Always, and that
> requirement continues forever. And how do you know what conditions he
> has been trained in? I would never recommend a student for a
> checkride unless he has experienced crosswind landings. And mid day
> flying. So not sure where you get the justification for your
> statement about "conditions your instructor would have been careful
> to avoid." Unless you know the situation personally, but as a
> general statement or guidance I disagree with the 100 hour philosophy.
>
> Jim
>
> Sent from Windows Mail
>
> From: Richard Williams
> Sent: ‎August‎ ‎27‎, ‎2013 ‎7‎:‎34‎ ‎AM
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Keeping Current
>
> Richard B,
>
> Here is my take on your question.
>
> Your a brand new pilot, just got your certificate.
>
> My suggestion...
> Don't even think about a passenger until you have well over 100 hours
> in your
LSA. You need air time, with lots of landings in all kinds of
> conditions.
>
> Conditions that your instructor would have been careful to avoid.
>
> Conditions like when the wind was calm and you were wide awake in the
> morning,
but when you arrive back to land a couple of hours later,
> the wind is 20 mph
across the runway.
That is no time to be risking
> a passenger, while you try to learn how to handle
a cross wind
> landing.
>
> Similarly, when the thermals are popping. The first many times, will
> have your
hands full just flying, it will be no time to have a
> panicked passenger grabbing
controls and/or puking and/or screaming
> in your ear.
>
> R. Williams
>
> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From: "Richard Bauer" <rk911@yahoo.com>
> To: <Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 11:52:09 -0500
> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Keeping Current
>
> > got a question I hope someone can answer. I've asked my instructor the
> > same question and he gave me a 90% certainty on his answer.
> >
> > I passed my sport pilot check ride the other day and have my temporary
> > airman certificate. a buddy and I are planning to meet another buddy
> > at an airport restaurant for breakfast next week. 61.57 of the FAR
> > states that in order to carry passengers I have to keep current by
> > making 3-landings within the preceding 90-days. as a student pilot
> > I've got that requirement and more, both in dual and solo.
> >
> > my question is....do those landings as a student (both dual and
> > solo/PIC) count towards currency or must I now do 3-landings as a
> > certified pilot before I can carry my buddy as a passenger? 61.57
> > makes no such distinction and my instructor believes I should be just
> > fine but I thought I would ask here. during my check ride i made 3-
> > landings and the DPE instructed me to log the flight as PIC time so
> > with that alone I think I'm covered in terms of currency for
> > passengers...but I'm not 100% certain. yes, I know I can just go out
> > to the airport and run the pattern for an hour and I may just do that
> > but I'm curious as to the answer to my question.
> ------- End of Original Message -------
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