I just cam back from the show. It was like getting locked in a candy store all night! I had a chance to fly the Sport Cruiser and I was impressed. I have about 50 hrs in a Gobosh 700, 4 in a DA20 and 4 in a 172. The Sport Cruiser was nicer to fly than any of those. The Piper version was of course identical, sans the logos. It looks like they will up the standard equipment and lower the price and still offer the 5 yr 500 hr warranty. I sat in the Tecnam Sierra, seemed well built but a bit tighter and 20k more money. At 160k I can be finishing up my private and buy a Cirrus or Diamond DA20 with low hours. I think Piper will give Cessna a run for the money, they picked a great design and they plan to Piperize it. At least the resale should be solid now. There were so many aircraft it was hard to really see them all in detail. Bob
--- On Sun, 1/24/10, Gary Orpe <garyo@bak.rr.com> wrote:
From: Gary Orpe <garyo@bak.rr.com>
Subject: RE: RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Story from EAA's E-Hotline
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 24, 2010, 10:05 PM
They are up and running fast. Wonder how long they will keep the Rotax, however. So much for it going out of business. Look here: Gary O.
"Mitfield"
We had a Sport Cruiser on the line for a while. The useful load with a standard 6 pack, night lights, and basic radios was 525. The step is in the rear and people who weighed more than 260lbs would tip the plane over trying to get in. That being said, it was a very popular plane. The looks lines are very good and Piper will likely sell many as a personal aircraft. The handling was very light, crosswind and turbulence ability low, and not what I would prefer for training. It also seriously leaked if you flew it through rain. Not so much issues for someone with time under their belt looking for a fair weather flying personal plane. I always thought they would do well if they had a better company running them, which it looks like they now have. Since virtually no one has flown the 162 we'll have to wait and see how the handling compares with the Cessna. Perhaps one will prove to be a better trainer and one a better personal plane? I certainly prefer the heaviler handling, and better ability to handle crosswinds and turbulence of a Tecnam over the Sport Cruiser for training though. Helen
Jan 21, 2010 04:40:16 PM, Sport_Aircraft@ yahoogroups. com wrote:
Hello
Piper is selling a name along with backup in the long term
Its real competition is Cessna The Piper has the useful load to offer fat versions at a premium Leather anyone?
THety also have a made in Europe (not in China) like BMW Mercedes sticker
Peter
--- On Fri, 1/22/10, Richard Williams wrote:
From: Richard Williams
Subject: RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Story from EAA's E-Hotline
To: Sport_Aircraft@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 8:59 AM
Gary, It is good to hear that Piper is still in the game of aviation. but, will they be able to make it work? Some 120k to 140k for a 'PiperSport' is really stretching the dollar that's still in my pocket after the downturn in the economy in the U.S.A. {:-( Oops, I should not have mentioned I still have a dollar, someone will be sure to try and move it from my pocket to theirs. {:-) R. Williams
---------- Original Message -----------
From: "Gary Orpe"
To:
Sent: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 10:59:29 -0800
Subject: RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Story from EAA's E-Hotline
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> Piper is going to do it for sure now. That should answer the question about the Sportcurser. It will be called the PiperSport instead. There will be three models; the basic PiperSport ($119,900), training-oriented LT ($129,900) and decked out LTD ($139,900).
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> Anyone going to the show in Florida? To far for me and hard to focus on that right now.....
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> On another subject there is a light out there somewhere in the world, we just keep looking we will find it...
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> Gary O.
> "Mitfield"
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sport_Aircraft@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Sport_ Aircraft@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Gary Orpe
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 9:39 PM
> To: Sport Aircraft Group
> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Story from EAA's E-Hotline
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> More on the SPORTCRUISER from EAA
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> PIPER MAY ACQUIRE MAKER OF SPORTCRUISER S-LSA
> Piper Aircraft may soon enter the light-sport aircraft (LSA) market if
> various media reports and chatter on Internet message boards are true.
> FlightGlobal. com was the first to relay reports from a Czech business daily
> newspaper that reported Piper had signed a $30 million deal to acquire Czech
> Aircraft Works, which makes the SportCruiser S-LSA. Piper's possible move to
> acquire the bankrupt aircraft maker would be in line with the new direction
> Piper signaled last May when it was acquired by the Singapore-based
> investment firm Imprimus.
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