Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: SportCruiser flight this weekend

Hi Roger,
In 10 years the difference in inspection and maintenance costs themselves between E-LSA and S-LSA might be enough to not worry about the re-sale of S-LSA versus E-LSA. Meaning your cost of ownership in 10 years may save you the amount of what difference there might be, if any between SLSA and ELSA.
Now if we are talking E-LSA's that are essentially 51% Exp-AB (not really E-LSA but..) or grandfathered E-LSA from the UL trainers which transitioned in as E-LSA well that's a completely different matter. But factory kit E-LSA's is what I am focusing on here.
Abid

--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Roger Poyner <rogpoyn@...> wrote:
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> The question of resale value right now is just a best guess on anyones part.  Ask me 10 years from now and I can give a pretty good answer.  As for myself I would not want to buy a plane from a flight school just for the forementioned reasons. 
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> ________________________________
> From: apollonorthamerica <apollonorthamerica@...>
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, January 6, 2010 1:28:08 AM
> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: SportCruiser flight this weekend
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> The Apollo LSA (not Apollo Fox anymore, KitFox guys wrongly think it affects something in their business, I don't agree but don't care either so didn't Rob vis-a-vis EuroFox) is definitely available as E-LSA. Just like I said, put the Sensenich prop on, pitch it and airworthy it. If done here we will do all the flight testing before end user takes it.
> I don't think if an airplane is properly maintained with documented logbooks etc. there will be much difference in price in re-sale over time. That makes sense except for schools wanting to use an airplane for training and rental ... they would want to restrict their buying search to S-LSA's. But honestly, you know what happens in flight schools. Would you looking for an airplane for yourself, rather buy an airplane banged in on touch n' goes by students all the time, engine run hard, going up and down all the time or buy an E-LSA owned by a person with all logbooks in order with no major damage history? That will basically give you the answer.
> Abid
>
> --- In Sport_Aircraft@ yahoogroups. com, "Gary Orpe" <garyo@> wrote:
> >
> > Very good question Abid. But doesn't Rotax still require their approval
> > for the kind of prop mounted and the installation, or forget the
> > warrantee? For older used engines or if you don't care about it I guess
> > you could do whatever you want. That is a good point you make about the
> > ELSA/SLSA value. Being in the busyness what would your opinion be on this
> > one?
> >
> > Are you going to offer ELSA on the Fox? You could take it apart and have
> > the new owner help put it back together again and go ELSA with it. Of
> > course then you would be having to make each one the same and offer the
> > kit for sale.
> >
> > I don't know. I am still lost on a lot of this stuff, now. There was the
> > proposal, and then the result keeps coming. Wow!
> >
> >
> > Gary Orpe
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sport_Aircraft@ yahoogroups. com
> > [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of apollonorthamerica
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 8:41 PM
> > To: Sport_Aircraft@ yahoogroups. com
> > Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: SportCruiser flight this
> > weekend
> >
> >
> >
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> > I honestly don't know why people who fly privately would want a S-LSA.
> > That's why there is E-LSA. Put the prop on, set the pitch and ground test
> > for proper RPM and call the FSDO inspector for airworthiness. Viola, you
> > got an E-LSA. Do what you would like.
> >
> > I think the idea is that S-LSA's will hold their re-sale values. Well have
> > they? compared to E-LSA? I really don't know.
> > Abid
> >
> > --- In Sport_Aircraft@ <mailto:Sport_ Aircraft% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > yahoogroups. com, "Gary Orpe" <garyo@> wrote:
> > >
> > > When someone speaks of buy an SLSA I assume they know they are not to
> > > touch it and someone else will have to do the work on it. A few things
> > are
> > > allowed on some aircraft by the manufacture, who regulates these things,
> > > not the FAA directly, and the Rotax engine is in a league of its own no
> > > matter who installed it.
> > >
> > > Not true in case of your Sonex, you can, or any A&P can do what ever you
> > > want to do with it, and still be legal. Such is especially not possible
> > > with the airframe or the Rotax engine of any SLSA.
> > >
> > > Hey if I am wrong on this, please let me know. Heck, I know you will.
> > >
> > > Something to consider before you lay out the cash for one. For about 70%
> > > out there this won't be a problem I would guess.
> > >
> > >
> > > Gary Orpe
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Sport_Aircraft@ <mailto:Sport_ Aircraft% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > yahoogroups. com
> > > [mailto:Sport_ Aircraft@ <mailto:Sport_ Aircraft% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of daleandee
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 8:14 PM
> > > To: Sport_Aircraft@ <mailto:Sport_ Aircraft% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > yahoogroups. com
> > > Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: SportCruiser flight this
> > > weekend
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I really like the look of the SportCruiser. If it was in the budget
> > > and flew as well as reported, it would probably be in the hangar. I
> > > looked at one extensively at the Lumberton, NC air-show one year. They
> > > offered a ride but I declined as I knew I couldn't afford it and didn't
> > > want to tie the guys up on a non-sale.
> > >
> > > For now I'll continue to fly my Sonex. It is a blast to fly and has a
> > > lot of good things going for it but it certainly doesn't have that
> > > cockpit room of the SportCruiser.
> > >
> > > Dale
> > > N28YD
> > >
> > > --- In Sport_Aircraft@ <mailto:Sport_ Aircraft% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > > yahoogroups. com, Eric Goforth <egoforth@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > This Saturday the wife and I flew the SportCruiser around for the
> > > > day. What an absolute kick in the pants. Fast, easy and has all of
> > > > the goodies a GA pilot like myself could want in a small cruiser for
> > > > the wife and I. We are seriously considering picking one up.<SNIP>
> > >
> >
>

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