Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Answer to Rich's Question

I guess the distinction that aileron rolling the lift vector to the left or right does
not turn a plane, it only would crab the plane. The rotation about a point to the left
or right comes from the elevator up that loops the plane when the looping vector isn't
offset by the weight of the nose in a turn.
Bill

---------- Original Message -----------
From: "Jim Bair" <jimbair@live.com>
To: <Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 20:46:50 -0600
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Answer to Rich's Question

> Hi Jim,
>
> Are you missing some of what is going on?
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Probably. That would be normal. haha.
>
> In level flight, so that we have positive stability, we have our CG ahead of
> our CP(center of pressure) - ie: we are nose heavy. To counter that, we apply
> up elevator for our straight and level flight. When we go towards knife edge,
> that non-neutral elevator will cause the nose to rise (loop), since the
> elevator isn't *fully* being used up keeping our nose up from gravity's pull.
> This, in effect, will cause us to 'climb/loop' towards the center of the
> circle when we bank. If we 'properly' remove the elevator and place it in true
> neutral (down from straight and level flight), then banking would only crab us
> in the direction of bank. It is only the elevator's uppness that causes us to
> turn when we are on our side, or any fraction thereof.
>
> Actually, I thought [UTF-8?]that’s what I said. [UTF-8?]It’s our elevators
uppness that
> makes us turn. OK, I give. What am I missing?
>
> Jim
>
> Bill
>
> .
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