Well here is a fact I heard from Barry today as he told me.
FAA told him that as far as they can see, he broke no FARs and NYC Police told him that they don't see any need to contact him in the future either. The park police has not contacted him yet. They were the ones who filed the original complain. They may contact him. They don't see trikes flying around much at 500 feet around SOL. Only helicopters.
Barry turned away about 300 feet before (over the water) the island on which SOL is located. I am guessing he was then about 800 to 1000 feet from the actual statue at around 450-500 feet.
EAA and AOPA show their complete ignorance calling his aircraft an ultralight, calling him an ultralight pilot and jumping to conclusions without even knowing the facts. Amazing.
Abid
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "apollonorthamerica" <apollonorthamerica@...> wrote:
>
> Here is a brief at AOPA of the SFRA (Nov 19, 2009). Notice the "below
> 1000 feet"
>
> http://www.aopa.org/advocacy/articles/2009/091117hudsonsfra.html
>
> The FAA course is here:
> http://faasafety.gov/files/helpcontent/Courses/NY%20Course/menu.html
>
> Keys:
> 1)Conduct entire flight while in the SFRA Exclusion area below 1000 feet
> MSL
> 2) Adhere to min safe altitude specified in 91.119
>
>
> 91.119 as of April 2nd, 2010:
>
> § 91.119 Minimum safe altitudes: General.
>
> Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may operate an
> aircraft below the following altitudes:
>
> (a) Anywhere. An altitude allowing, if a power unit fails, an emergency
> landing without undue hazard to persons or property on the surface.
>
> (b) Over congested areas. Over any congested area of a city, town, or
> settlement, or over any open air assembly of persons, an altitude of
> 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle within a horizontal radius of
> 2,000 feet of the aircraft.
>
> (c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above the
> surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In those
> cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any
> person, vessel, vehicle, or structure.
>
> (d) Helicopters, powered parachutes, and weight-shift-control aircraft.
> If the operation is conducted without hazard to persons or property on
> the surface—
>
> (1) A helicopter may be operated at less than the minimums prescribed in
> paragraph (b) or (c) of this section, provided each person operating the
> helicopter complies with any routes or altitudes specifically prescribed
> for helicopters by the FAA; and
>
> (2) A powered parachute or weight-shift-control aircraft may be operated
> at less than the minimums prescribed in paragraph (c) of this section.
>
>
> Abid
>
>
>
>
> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "apollonorthamerica"
> <apollonorthamerica@> wrote:
> >
> > You can read the whole rule making process history if you'd like here
> >
> >
> http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/rulemaking/recently_published/me\
> dia/2009-27539_PI.pdf
> >
> > People have been flying around statue of Liberty in the exclusion area
> for years. I am not a New Yorker but I know that much.
> >
> > To quote from the above rulemaking link:
> >
> > Pilots can transit the Hudson River Exclusion/SFRA in the airspace
> from
> > 1,000 feet MSL up to, but not including, 1,300 feet MSL. Pilots
> transiting the area
> > shall not descend below 1,000 feet MSL. Pilots are advised not to
> climb or
> > descend or make significant heading changes. However, this does not
> preclude
> > pilots from taking action as needed to avoid other aircraft. It is the
> FAA's
> > intention to reserve the altitudes from 1,000 feet MSL up to but not
> including
> > 1,300 feet MSL for those aircraft transiting the area without having
> to obtain a
> > Class B airspace clearance.
> > ..
> >
> > Pilots -conducting local area operations- should operate below 1,000
> feet
> > MSL while in the SFRA, and they must follow other pertinent
> regulations (e.g.,
> > minimum safe altitudes, visibility and cloud clearance requirements,
> and see and
> > avoid). Pilots must also be aware that, while operating in this
> dynamic
> > environment below 1,000 feet MSL, they should expect to encounter
> aircraft that
> > are climbing, descending, transitioning to land, making significant
> heading
> > changes or operating at very slow airspeeds. Since -local helicopter
> tour operators
> > fly an irregular pattern near the Statue of Liberty at approximately
> 500 feet-, other
> > pilots intending to circle the Statue of Liberty in the Exclusion are
> advised to do
> > so at the highest practical altitude below 1,000 feet MSL.
> >
> > Abid
> >
> > --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "bob mcdonagh" airpark@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Light-Sport Aircraft & Sport Pilot
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: bob mcdonagh
> > > To: No Reply
> > > Cc: bob mcdonagh
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:33 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Digest Number 2325
> > >
> > >
> > > What rules are you quoting that made it okay to fly around the
> 'Lady;? I've flown that area a few times. And we were always under
> Air Traffic Control's communications and directions.
> > >
> > > We recently had a plane and helicopter collide in that Hudson River
> area. Yes, a few UL type aircraft have done some flying in that area.
> But, most had enough sense to have a radio and communicate with ATC.
> > >
> > > This was dumb and stupid. And will lead - to more control over all
> of us - even the ones that have followed the rules. Bob McDonagh
> > >
> >
>
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