Re: Fw: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Digest Number 2325

Here is a brief at AOPA of the SFRA (Nov 19, 2009). Notice the "below 1000 feet"

http://www.aopa.org/advocacy/articles/2009/091117hudsonsfra.html

The FAA course is here:
http://faasafety.gov/files/helpcontent/Courses/NY%20Course/menu.html

Keys:
1)Conduct entire flight while in the SFRA Exclusion area below 1000 feet MSL
2) Adhere to min safe altitude specified in 91.119


91.119 as of April 2nd, 2010:

§ 91.119   Minimum safe altitudes: General.

Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may operate an aircraft below the following altitudes:

(a) Anywhere. An altitude allowing, if a power unit fails, an emergency landing without undue hazard to persons or property on the surface.

(b) Over congested areas. Over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement, or over any open air assembly of persons, an altitude of 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle within a horizontal radius of 2,000 feet of the aircraft.

(c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above the surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In those cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure.

(d) Helicopters, powered parachutes, and weight-shift-control aircraft. If the operation is conducted without hazard to persons or property on the surface—

(1) A helicopter may be operated at less than the minimums prescribed in paragraph (b) or (c) of this section, provided each person operating the helicopter complies with any routes or altitudes specifically prescribed for helicopters by the FAA; and

(2) A powered parachute or weight-shift-control aircraft may be operated at less than the minimums prescribed in paragraph (c) of this section.


Abid




--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "apollonorthamerica" <apollonorthamerica@...> wrote:
>
> You can read the whole rule making process history if you'd like here
>
> http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/rulemaking/recently_published/media/2009-27539_PI.pdf
>
> People have been flying around statue of Liberty in the exclusion area for years. I am not a New Yorker but I know that much.
>
> To quote from the above rulemaking link:
>
> Pilots can transit the Hudson River Exclusion/SFRA in the airspace from
> 1,000 feet MSL up to, but not including, 1,300 feet MSL. Pilots transiting the area
> shall not descend below 1,000 feet MSL. Pilots are advised not to climb or
> descend or make significant heading changes. However, this does not preclude
> pilots from taking action as needed to avoid other aircraft. It is the FAA's
> intention to reserve the altitudes from 1,000 feet MSL up to but not including
> 1,300 feet MSL for those aircraft transiting the area without having to obtain a
> Class B airspace clearance.
> ..
>
> Pilots -conducting local area operations- should operate below 1,000 feet
> MSL while in the SFRA, and they must follow other pertinent regulations (e.g.,
> minimum safe altitudes, visibility and cloud clearance requirements, and see and
> avoid). Pilots must also be aware that, while operating in this dynamic
> environment below 1,000 feet MSL, they should expect to encounter aircraft that
> are climbing, descending, transitioning to land, making significant heading
> changes or operating at very slow airspeeds. Since -local helicopter tour operators
> fly an irregular pattern near the Statue of Liberty at approximately 500 feet-, other
> pilots intending to circle the Statue of Liberty in the Exclusion are advised to do
> so at the highest practical altitude below 1,000 feet MSL.
>
> Abid
>
> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "bob mcdonagh" airpark@ wrote:
> >
> > Light-Sport Aircraft & Sport Pilot
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: bob mcdonagh
> > To: No Reply
> > Cc: bob mcdonagh
> > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:33 AM
> > Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Digest Number 2325
> >
> >
> > What rules are you quoting that made it okay to fly around the 'Lady;? I've flown that area a few times. And we were always under Air Traffic Control's communications and directions.
> >
> > We recently had a plane and helicopter collide in that Hudson River area. Yes, a few UL type aircraft have done some flying in that area. But, most had enough sense to have a radio and communicate with ATC.
> >
> > This was dumb and stupid. And will lead - to more control over all of us - even the ones that have followed the rules. Bob McDonagh
> >
>

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