That is a pretty big motivator to build aircraft outside the US.
You know that Cirrus, the largest GA airplane maker in the world I guess is really not owned by US principles any more. Its shares are majority owned by one of Gulf countries government investment fund. No US owned fund wanted to invest seriously enough in even that aircraft manufacturer.
Abid
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, medicbill@... wrote:
>
> Bravo Abid bravo for you.
>
> I talked with a guy at Oshkosh who was the financial backer for a new
> radical seaplane. I asked him about building in the US. All I heard from him was
> a load of garbage whining about how come he can't build here. All it came
> down to was paying crap wages and being able to pollute without recourse so
> he can maximize his profit. I hope he loses his shirt. If this country is
> not good enough to build your planes here maybe he should leave.
>
> Bill
>
>
> In a message dated 10/18/2010 11:02:50 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> apollonorthamerica@... writes:
>
> The lowest cost Revo is $45k but to keep perspective, that's akin to
> saying the lowest cost Merc. is xyz as far as the trike world goes.
>
> We build the Revo here because we want to build our cream of the crop
> model all in the USA. We have other lower models whose sub-assemblies come from
> Hungary. Building in the USA is not cheap but if we don't build things
> here, we are going to slip into a 3rd world country. Its just a matter of
> time. Slowly but surely. I am a bit surprised that Americans born and brought
> up here don't seem to have the perspective that allows them to see that
> clearly.
> Abid
>
> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Tom Williams <tomcw4aa@> wrote:
> >
> > wow a owner that makes sense politically. I have not looked at your web
> site
> > recently. What is the lowest cost ultra you have?
> >
> > Tom W
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 11:29 PM, apollonorthamerica <
> > apollonorthamerica@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Chris,
> > > This isn't really a political forum but I am doing something about it.
> I
> > > own a company that is "manufacturing and selling" trikes to US
> customers and
> > > abroad. We are "net" exporters. We bring in more money into the US
> than we
> > > send to Rotax outside the US because everything else besides the Rotax
> on
> > > our trikes has local roots from the 4130 tubing to the little rubber
> > > grommets to the Adel clamps to the tefzel wire to the nut and bolt to
> the
> > > wing sail material (which most others use Dimension Polyant from
> Germany).
> > > More of the Revo is manufactured here than RV kits from Van's
> (Phillipines)
> > > plant. What else do you want me to do?
> > >
> > > I wasn't the one who started a useless war based on a lie (depending on
> > > your party affiliations) and I also wasn't the one who gave billions
> to Bank
> > > Of America and AIG and others because government was reducing
> regulation and
> > > asleep at the wheel. Hey but at least this time our wall street took
> the
> > > world into the dumpster with it :).
> > >
> > > Abid
> > >
> > > --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "chris@ <chris%40digitalrealitycorp.com>" <chris@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Then do something about it Dammit!
> > > >
> > > > Everyone whined about the depression...but that's all. I have one
> > > question for everyone here...are you a nationalist as in HEA or
> loyalist as
> > > in let's make bins the new superpower?
> > > >
> > > > Chris Norman, CEO
> > > > www.digitalrealitycorp.com
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!
> > > >
> > > > ----- Reply message -----
> > > > From: "apollonorthamerica" <apollonorthamerica@>
> > > > Date: Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:31 pm
> > > > Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: the Blame Game
> > > > To: <Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > > >
> > > > I think we are in a depression, yes in the US. We have more orders
> for
> > > our high priced models from outside the US than within the US for the
> year.
> > > That has not happened before.
> > > > Abid
> > > >
> > > > --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "Richard Williams" <rkwill@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Abid,
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you think we are in a post depression period?
> > > > >
> > > > > I think we are still in the middle of the depression, and that it
> will
> > > get
> > > > > worse.
> > > > >
> > > > > R. Williams
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ---------- Original Message -----------
> > > > > From: "apollonorthamerica" <apollonorthamerica@>
> > > > > To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 03:11:45 -0000
> > > > > Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: the Blame Game
> > > > >
> > > > > > Don't you think that may have a lot more to do with our 2008 and
> post
> > >
> > > > > > depression Richard rather than SP? Abid
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In
> Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com<Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "Richard Williams" <rkwill@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Herb,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think you have it all wrong.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ultralight IS going away because appropriate training is not
> > > available.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Light Sport was the FAA way of reducing the hundreds/thousands
> of
> > > UL pilots
> > > > > > > flying around the sky.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you think I'm wrong, just look/count the number of active
> planes
> > > at most
> > > > > any
> > > > > > > local airport. Back when, the ULs (fat or otherwise) were
> getting
> > > together,
> > > > > > > doing things, going places. Now, many airports haven't seen a
> > > hanger open
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > years, and the number of pilots is falling like water through a
> > > sieve..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A good example is my local airport, 39P.
> > > > > > > It used to have all hangers full and the planes active on most
> any
> > > day,
> > > > > > > especially the weekends. Now, most of the hangers are full of
> > > cobwebs and
> > > > > junk
> > > > > > > plane parts. Only two hangers have any regular activity. Mine
> and a
> > >
> > > > > hangglider
> > > > > > > towing operation.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We have often spoken of 'hanger talk'. Now there is usually
> not two
> > > persons
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > the airport at any one time to talk.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > R. Williams
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ---------- Original Message -----------
> > > > > > > From: "herbkushner" <herbkushner@>
> > > > > > > To:
> Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com<Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > Sent: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:22:36 -0000
> > > > > > > Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: the Blame Game
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ultralight has NOT changed, and LIGHT SPORT isn't going away.
> > > Just the
> > > > > > > > opposite; it was put into effect to stop the cheating, and
> the
> > > FED
> > > > > > > > seems to like the result. STOP CRYING AND DEAL WITH IT!
> > > > > > > > (What a boring thread. Please, can we stop this nonsense
> and move
> > > on)
> > > > > > > > Herb K
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In
> Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com<Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "Rick Pitcher" <lightflyer@>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In
> Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com<Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > James Ferris mijniljj@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It only had 65 and someone in the club flew it into a
> car at
> > > > > > > > First-Flight
> > > > > > > > > > airport.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I gotta ask... what altitude was the car at when they
> crashed?
> > > ;)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ------- End of Original Message -------
> > > > > > >
> > > > > ------- End of Original Message -------
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > TCW
> >
>
>
>
>
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