Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: the Blame Game

Ditto,

If we don't have assets to protect, why do we need supercarriers?

Sorry to digress a bit but I am sick of politics and finance being so intertwined.

We don't need greater separation of church and state, we need greater separation of state and business. State is supposed to warheads out for welfare of the people, not the government.

As far as aircraft tying into this, if the middle class in the US gets crushed, that means we don't buy more aircraft and general aviation suffers.

Chris Norman, CEO
www.digitalrealitycorp.com

Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!

----- Reply message -----
From: medicbill@aol.com
Date: Tue, Oct 19, 2010 1:09 am
Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: the Blame Game
To: <Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com>

Bravo Abid bravo for you.

I talked with a guy at Oshkosh who was the financial backer for a new  
radical seaplane. I asked him about building in the US. All I heard from him was
a load of garbage whining about how come he can't build here. All it came
down  to was paying crap wages and being able to pollute without recourse so
he can  maximize his profit. I hope he loses his shirt. If this country is
not good  enough to build your planes here maybe he should leave.

Bill


In a message dated 10/18/2010 11:02:50 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
apollonorthamerica@yahoo.com writes:

The  lowest cost Revo is $45k but to keep perspective, that's akin to
saying the  lowest cost Merc. is xyz as far as the trike world goes.

We build the  Revo here because we want to build our cream of the crop
model all in the USA.  We have other lower models whose sub-assemblies come from
Hungary. Building in  the USA is not cheap but if we don't build things
here, we are going to slip  into a 3rd world country. Its just a matter of
time. Slowly but surely. I am a  bit surprised that Americans born and brought
up here don't seem to have the  perspective that allows them to see that
clearly.
Abid

--- In  Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Tom Williams <tomcw4aa@...>  wrote:
>
> wow a owner that makes sense politically. I have not  looked at your web
site
> recently. What is the lowest cost ultra you  have?
>
> Tom W
>
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 11:29  PM, apollonorthamerica <
> apollonorthamerica@...> wrote:
>  
> >
> >
> > Hi Chris,
> > This isn't  really a political forum but I am doing something about it.
I
> > own  a company that is "manufacturing and selling" trikes to US
customers  and
> > abroad. We are "net" exporters. We bring in more money into  the US
than we
> > send to Rotax outside the US because everything  else besides the Rotax
on
> > our trikes has local roots from the  4130 tubing to the little rubber
> > grommets to the Adel clamps to  the tefzel wire to the nut and bolt to
the
> > wing sail material  (which most others use Dimension Polyant from
Germany).
> > More of  the Revo is manufactured here than RV kits from Van's
(Phillipines)
>  > plant. What else do you want me to do?
> >
> > I wasn't  the one who started a useless war based on a lie (depending on
> >  your party affiliations) and I also wasn't the one who gave billions
to  Bank
> > Of America and AIG and others because government was  reducing
regulation and
> > asleep at the wheel. Hey but at least  this time our wall street took
the
> > world into the dumpster with  it :).
> >
> > Abid
> >
> > --- In  Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com  
<Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "chris@...  <chris%40digitalrealitycorp.com>" <chris@>
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Then do something about it  Dammit!
> > >
> > > Everyone whined about the  depression...but that's all. I have one
> > question for everyone  here...are you a nationalist as in HEA or
loyalist as
> > in let's  make bins the new superpower?
> > >
> > > Chris  Norman, CEO
> > > www.digitalrealitycorp.com
> >  >
> > > Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from  Sprint!
> > >
> > > ----- Reply message -----
>  > > From: "apollonorthamerica" <apollonorthamerica@>
> >  > Date: Fri, Oct 15, 2010 11:31 pm
> > > Subject: Light-Sport  Aircraft Yahoo group Re: the Blame Game
> > > To:  <Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com  
<Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > >
> >  > I think we are in a depression, yes in the US. We have more orders  
for
> > our high priced models from outside the US than within the US  for the
year.
> > That has not happened before.
> > >  Abid
> > >
> > > --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com  
<Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "Richard Williams"  <rkwill@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  Abid,
> > > >
> > > > Do you think we are in a  post depression period?
> > > >
> > > > I think  we are still in the middle of the depression, and that it
will
> >  get
> > > > worse.
> > > >
> > >  > R. Williams
> > > >
> > > >
> >  > > ---------- Original Message -----------
> > > > From:  "apollonorthamerica" <apollonorthamerica@>
> > > > To:  Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com  
<Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Fri, 15  Oct 2010 03:11:45 -0000
> > > > Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft  Yahoo group Re: the Blame Game
> > > >
> > > >  > Don't you think that may have a lot more to do with our 2008 and
post
> >
> > > > > depression Richard rather than  SP? Abid
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In  
Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com<Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>,
>  > "Richard Williams" <rkwill@> wrote:
> > > > >  >
> > > > > > Herb,
> > > > >  >
> > > > > > I think you have it all wrong.
>  > > > > >
> > > > > > Ultralight IS going  away because appropriate training is not
> > available.
> >  > > > >
> > > > > > Light Sport was the FAA  way of reducing the hundreds/thousands
of
> > UL pilots
> >  > > > > flying around the sky.
> > > > >  >
> > > > > > If you think I'm wrong, just look/count  the number of active
planes
> > at most
> > > >  any
> > > > > > local airport. Back when, the ULs (fat or  otherwise) were
getting
> > together,
> > > > >  > doing things, going places. Now, many airports haven't seen a
>  > hanger open
> > > > in
> > > > > >  years, and the number of pilots is falling like water through a
> >  sieve..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A  good example is my local airport, 39P.
> > > > > > It  used to have all hangers full and the planes active on most
any
> >  day,
> > > > > > especially the weekends. Now, most of  the hangers are full of
> > cobwebs and
> > > >  junk
> > > > > > plane parts. Only two hangers have any  regular activity. Mine
and a
> >
> > > >  hangglider
> > > > > > towing operation.
> >  > > > >
> > > > > > We have often spoken of  'hanger talk'. Now there is usually
not two
> > persons
> >  > > at
> > > > > > the airport at any one time to  talk.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > R.  Williams
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  ---------- Original Message -----------
> > > > > > From:  "herbkushner" <herbkushner@>
> > > > > > To:  
Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com<Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
>  > > > > > Sent: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:22:36 -0000
> >  > > > > Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: the Blame  Game
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >  Ultralight has NOT changed, and LIGHT SPORT isn't going away.
> >  Just the
> > > > > > > opposite; it was put into  effect to stop the cheating, and
the
> > FED
> > > >  > > > seems to like the result. STOP CRYING AND DEAL WITH IT!
>  > > > > > > (What a boring thread. Please, can we stop this  nonsense
and move
> > on)
> > > > > > > Herb  K
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  --- In  
Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com<Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>,
>  > "Rick Pitcher" <lightflyer@>
> > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >  > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > >  > > > > > --- In  
Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com<Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>,
>  > James Ferris mijniljj@ wrote:
> > > > > > > >  >
> > > > > > > > > It only had 65 and  someone in the club flew it into a
car at
> > > > > >  > First-Flight
> > > > > > > > >  airport.
> > > > > > > > >
> > >  > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I gotta  ask... what altitude was the car at when they
crashed?
> > ;)
>  > > > > > > >
> > > > > > -------  End of Original Message -------
> > > > > >
> >  > > ------- End of Original Message -------
> > >  >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>  
>
>
> --
>  TCW
>




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