The sportcruiser comes to mind Rick, as one of them.
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From: Rick Pitcher <lightflyer@adelphia.net>I kinda figured you meant composite, and yes, rag-wings are lighter.
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Dec 26, 2010 17:53:22 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group High Useful Load LSA Aircraft Models
But I would like to see the "baloney" that Gary says comes from the
"all-metal" camps. I haven't seen it myself, but I'm sure if moderator-Gary
posts it as fact he must have some data to back it up. THAT will be
interesting!
Hope your cold gets better Helen,
Rick
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From: "Helen Woods"
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Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group High Useful Load LSA Aircraft
Models
> Oh, that should have been metal or composite... I think this head cold
> has gotten the better of be this morning! Gary's right though that
> Rotax rag-wings out there tend to have a good useful load.
>
> Helen
>
> On 12/26/2010 12:34 PM, Helen Woods wrote:
>> Metal or aluminum, either can be built heavy or light. Tecnam and Remos
>> have proven that.
>>
>> As a general rule though, anything with a O200 or amphibious floats is
>> going to be heavy. As Gary mentions, a lot also has to do with what
>> weight the plane was originally designed for. I though Cirrus was
>> really on to something with their LSA as they bought a microlight that
>> was rated for 1250 and was going to get an extra 70lbs out of going
>> LSA. The current SportStar gets its good useful load from such a
>> conversion.
>>
>> Helen
>>
>> On 12/26/2010 12:16 PM, Rick Pitcher wrote:
>>
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>>> From: Gary Orpe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> That is a great point Helen. A real W&B sheet is in every plane
>>>> legally.
>>>> And there is a lot of bologna out there as well. Especially in the all
>>>> metal camps.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Now THAT is interesting. Nice change from the rants of late. Thanks
>>> Gary.
>>> So tell us, which all-metal airplanes have you found that are full of
>>> baloney? Maybe some links to their specifications page would be nice.
>>>
>>> I know there are some big advantages in owning and maintaining aluminum
>>> airplanes as opposed to rag-and-tube or composite aircraft, mostly
>>> having to
>>> do with the ability to keep the planes out in the elements year around.
>>> And
>>> if you DO happen to damage your aluminum plane, there are mechanics in
>>> every
>>> airport that have years of experience with aluminum airplanes. It really
>>> is
>>> an easy material to work with.
>>> But I'd love to hear what your research has shown about the baloney in
>>> the
>>> "all metal camps".
>>>
>>>
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