Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: LSA Experimental

Jerry

Bushcaddy web site link.

http://www.bushcaddy.com/en/cadpricesMay2002.htm

They list the ELSA.

Marin

--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Jerry" <jself1@...> wrote:
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> Looking at the Bushcaddy website, it looks like it is an E-AB kit that meets the LSA rules not ELSA kit.
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> Jerry in NC
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> From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marin Streeter
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> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: LSA Experimental
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> Bushcaddy sells an ELSA kit.
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> On 11/1/2011 8:43 PM, Jerry wrote:
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> Terms are getting used loosely. There is no such animal as a SLSA kit. The only ELSA kit (fixed wing) approved that I am aware of is the RV-12.
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> From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Taylor
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> I get what you're saying. Anything certified E-AB must have met the 51% rule, too. That said, working with the FAA, one can take an SLSA kit, remanufacture some parts to meet the 51% rule, then certify it E-AB.
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> Bob Taylor
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> I am getting the feeling that people are confusing terms. I thought ELSA and SLSA were being talked about, and then E-AB got tossed into the mix. You can’t take anything and turn it into an E-AB. If you build from scratch (plans built), no problem, but if you take an existing aircraft model (SLSA, for example) and assemble the parts yourself, that doesn’t necessarily qualify it to be registered as an E-AB. The reason there are a zillion RV’s out there is that they have been approved as a kit. I built a trike once that came that way, in a box of about a million pieces. It was not an approved kit so I could not register E-AB. A couple of years later, I built an Air Cam which came in maybe less pieces because I had the fuselage prebuilt to save time and it was registered E-AB because it was an approved kit. (Disclaimer: The numbers were made up because that’s about how it feels sometimes. haha Exact numbers wasn’t the point.)
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> From: Robert Taylor <mailto:flydad57@...>
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> Can they not be registered and certified as E-AB? I know of no RV's that can't be certified E-AB. Can't you build your Skyranger and certify it E-AB? Why is that not an option? Maybe I'm confused....
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> Bob Taylor
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> From: A. Censor <mailto:acensor@...>
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> You know, I haven't looked at the site you mention but I bet I know
> where the confusion lies. A factory cannot produce ELSAs until they
> have built at least one SLSA of the same model. I bet because of that
> the site is just listing them as SLSAs.
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> Helen
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> Yup, That's one source of confusion.
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> I regret I overstated in my post saying no more ELSA's can be built.
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> There are certain perfectly good ELSA's that can no longer be built and certified.
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> Because the factory is either unwilling or unable to go through the rather expensive and time consuming process of building and certifying one SLSA of that model.
> Case in point: My Skyranger.
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> They're being built and flown in UK, Australia and Europe.
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> But you can't go out and buy a kit now in the USA and build and get one certified here because of that "first someone has to build and certify one SLSA of that model" here.
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> I believe for that same reason certain perfectly good models or RV's can't be built and certified anymore.
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> I could be wrong about that one.
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