Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group NEW Composite fully equipped LSA trainer from Pipistrel for just $85K

Michael,

Sorry I was overexercising my brain,
I though we were discussing the skycatcher from Cessna.

R. Williams

---------- Original Message -----------
From: "Michael Coates" <mcoates@mcp.com.au>
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:01:53 -0000
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group NEW Composite fully equipped LSA
trainer from Pipistrel for just $85K

> Sorry i dont know which plane your talking about ?
> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Williams" <rkwill@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Michael,
> >
> > Sorry, that is not correct.
> > The max payload is 490 pounds.
> > usable fuel, drain-able oil, luggage, and the humans are all part of
> that payload.
> >
> > The fuel load, ~144 pounds for 24 gallons, leaves 346 pounds.
> > assuming the oil in the engine is 8pounds, leaves 338 pounds.
> > Just about enough for 2 FAA standard' weight persons.
> >
> > Well, most American men weight are well above that 'FAA standard'.
> >
> > The documentation does say that as much as 50 pounds can be put in the
> > storage//luggage compartment.
> > But we cannot afford the extra weight.
> >
> > So, lets say the instructor weights 200 pounds.
> > that leaves 146 pounds for the student.
> > (assuming they can both crowd into the cockpit, it would be a real
> cosy fit.)
> > Hummmm......
> > I guess a cute little lady could qualify as the student without
> overloading the
> > plane.
> >
> > There seems to be only one possible conclusion:
> > the skycatcher is engineered to make flying more accessible for the
> female
> > population.
> >
> > The documentation I read did not mention the seat load limit, but the
> ASTM
> > required min value is 225pounds.
> >
> > If my 300pounds were to be training in the skycatcher and the seat did
> not
> > collapse, the instructor would have to stay on the ground.
> >
> > the documentation says a full tank will last a bit less than 4 hours.
> > If the fuel has to be reduced to accommodate the pilot/instructor, say
> by half,
> > then training time will be ~1.5 hours+plus reserve.
> >
> > Touch-n-go practice will eat the fuel at a much higher rate than
> cruise
> > consumption of 6gal./hr.
> >
> > I agree with Helen,
> > Training plane for solo training.
> >
> > R. Williams
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