Friday, April 20, 2012

Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: LSA for rent without renters, or renters...

forgive me for this as I am not a Pilot...yet but I am trying to understand what was said about additional inspections
I thought that all planes were required to have the same inspections even if they are a light sport.
also the maintenance required on an engine/ machine depends on the quality of the maintenance done. Every car I have owned I have driven well past 200,000 miles and a couple of them past 300,000
and my Goldwing is approaching 150,000
I would think that a properly flown and maintained used aircraft would be a far better value than a new one at 4-5 times the cost.

--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, Helen Woods <Helen_Woods@...> wrote:
>
> Ed, I don't think you've been pricing planes lately. I'd be lucky to
> get $30K if I tried to sell my C172 in today's market and she's full IFR
> with Gramin 530. $20K is very reasonable today for a C150. Insurance
> is also dirst cheap for such. I'm paying in the neighborhood of $600/yr
> for my C172 and parts are a heck of a lot easy to get from Cessna than
> from any LSA manufacturer I've ever dealt with. I'm probably a bigger
> sport pilot proponent than anyone but on the aircraft price argument, an
> older Cessna does beat a new LSA hands down.
>
> Helen
>
> On 4/19/2012 5:07 PM, pwrsport@... wrote:
> >
> >
> > Sounds like an over simplification to me.A 20k 150 can become
> > maintenance nightmare especially in a training environment.I don’t
> > believe I would even get in a 20K 150 flying contraption? Then the
> > additional inspections required, training insurance etc.Not for this
> > guy. Five additional hours for a PP I believe is another
> > oversimplification.The flight time will be way in excess of that based
> > on all national averages to cover all the additional training
> > requirements.Sport pilots can fly anywhere they want in the national
> > airspace, just not at night.Works for me.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Bair
> > Sent: Apr 19, 2012 9:51 AM
> > To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group LSA for rent without
> > renters, or renters...
> >
> > My son bought an IFR equipped 150 for under $20k. He plans on
> > getting an instrument rating in it and instructing in it. There
> > is no way he could have paid 80 and up for a plane. ROI, yes,
> > much better.
> > The license itself... I totally recommend to students that if they
> > can get a medical, they are much better off with a PP over a SP if
> > they have any idea of eventually upgrading. Way more options on
> > where and what they can fly. I have had guys come back to me
> > later wanting to upgrade to PP so they can fly at night, or fly a
> > C-172 and haul 4 people, etc. I always tell people that if they
> > are absolutely sure that they will be happy flying within the
> > limits of SP that it is a good way to go, but if they think they
> > might want more in the future, they will have to study again for
> > another written, more dual, and pay for another checkride. There
> > is only 5 more hours of dual time required for a PP anyway.
> > Don’t get me wrong, it is a real license, it just has
> > limitations. If you don’t mind those limitations, then no problem.
> > I really haven’t been following the used LSA market. I’m sure
> > some are out there now. What are they bringing on the used market?
> > Jim
> > *From:* ron_d_hill <mailto:Ron@...>
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 18, 2012 5:18 PM
> > *To:* Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com>
> > *Subject:* Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group LSA for rent
> > without renters, or renters...
> >
> > Well, one simple thing is a 150 can be bought for 20k and the
> > current crop of LSA's are 80-100k.
> >
> > If I were looking to buy an aircraft and get ROI.... ROI is going
> > to be better on the Cessna 150.
> >
> > Another issue with sport pilot is it is not seen as a 'real'
> > license. The CFI's don't see it that way, the industry does not
> > see it that way, the FAA sorta does not see it that way, and most
> > pilots do not see it that way.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


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