Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: I need help

How many airline pilots who have class 1 physicals have dropped dead
during flight. Not a lot but it has happened. Not to mention the recent
incident with the guy whose brain decided to have a sudden personality
change one morning. Physicals are only good for the moment they are
done. As a Paramedic I have seen people who had a perfectly normal 12
lead EKG drop dead the next day due to a clot that formed in the
cornary artery that was 80% blocked which is not picked up by a 12 lead
nor is the procedure to pick that up a part of any FAA physical. There
are more firefighters who drop dead in their stations then there are
aviation accidents related to medical conditions. Search the FAA
database and you will find the number of accidents that can be proven
or even specualted that occured due to a medical problem the absolut
bottom of the barrel.

Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: circicirci <acensor@fastmail.fm>
To: Sport_Aircraft <Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Apr 30, 2012 9:23 am
Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: I need help

Hi Mark,

I agree getting checked medically is wise ... and even _more_ so making
the livestyle choices that can load the dice in our favor for good long
(and even more important -- "good quality") life. Especially as one
gets over 40 or 50 years old. You could even say I'm on the radical end
of the health-nut spectrum.


But to echo and add to what others wrote below earlier:
With well over 4000 pilots (true number unknown because of large
number of older PP pilots flying with sport pilot privilges with no
medicals flying, according to AOPA, since 2004 up to now there is not a
_single_ known case of an incident or accident that it could be said
that a condition that would have been detected on a medical even
contributed to the event.
That alone is pretty convincing evidence to me that private pilots
(be they PP or SP) aren't going to be falling our of the sky or
colliding with other aircraft as a result of not having medicals.
We all know that the _biggest_ factor in flying safety is
judgement (including judgement about when and where an how to NOT fly,
knowing and respecting our own and our aircrafts' limits) and
responsibility (maintainence, etc). Being required to take a class-3
medical probably does little to increase that.
Might you agree with those last two sentences?


Getting into a UL and flying with no training is something none of us
here recommend. Whether 15 hours is "enough" is debatable. I flew a
hang glider in the early 70's with almost no training (there was none
available). The first crop of UL pioneers pretty much did the same.
Some got hurt badly.
Unfortunately UL training is today _much_ harder and much more
expensive for a new wanna-be UL to obtain than before the LSa sport
pilot rules eliminated the existance of two-seat UL trainer aircraft
and eliminated the existance of the BFI (Basic Flight Instructors).
(This topic is something already well-covered in other threads here by
me And others -- apologies if I'm overly repeating myself.)

Because of that and other factors (such as the cost of LSa's) it is
unclear if on _net_ the LSA sport pilot rules will in the long or even
medium run significantly increase, not-effect, or even _REDUCE_ the
acessibility of flying and number of pilots compared to if it had not
been created. It certainly has not to date created the hoped for influx
of new pilots. If I had to bet money I'd say it won't.

Personally Sport Pilot has been good for ME, but I'm sure there are
some _really_ dissappointed wanna-be UL pilots out there wishing they'd
got in before the door squeezed almost-shut between 2004 and 2008.

Alex


--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, medicbill@... wrote:
>
> They have multiple times. All the evidence and studies have clearly
indicated that not requiring medicals has not affected the safety
record negatively in any way. It is also those studies that gave the
ammo for the AOPA, EAA and other organizations to push the FAA to do
the same with 3rd class medicals.
>
> Bill
>
>
> In a message dated 4/29/2012 6:23:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> garyo@... writes:
>
>
>
> We should compare accident rates and go from there. That's where the
truths lay.
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE Phone
>
>
> -----Original message-----
>
> From: Mark C <wannagoflying@...>
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, Apr 30, 2012 00:54:05 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: I need help
>
>
> I for one am not in favor of the new "Watered down" LSA medicals and
flight training the USA are coming out with. Thankfully the med side
has not happened in Canada however Being allowed to fly a i seat
Ultralight with only 15hrs training is ridiculous. If you fly LSA,
Ultralight, Advanced
> ultralight, GA, Whatever your still flying! proper medicals and
Training should not be sacrificed for the sake of "opening up the
market" For EAA etc. I fly a Advanced ultralight (LSA in the USA) But
still have a PPL and continue to get my Flight medical every year its
worth the $140CND every 5 years (2
> years now that i'm over 40).













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