Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: LSA for rent without renters, or renters...

You are thinking correctly.  And the inspection cycles are identical.  An annual on all, an additional 100 hr on planes used commercially. 

The high price of new LSAs isn't the only high price out there.  A new Super Decathlon would be twice what I paid for mine.  Maybe more.  A new C-150, probably 8 times the price of a 1960's model.  The 1960s one doesn't have glass and shiny paint.  But it flies and an hour of logged time is still the same hour.  And when you take it on a cross country, you can park it on the ramp somewhere and not worry about the sun pounding on it.  It's been pre pounded.  haha.  New things look nice, but they are expensive.  I can't imagine buying a new airplane.  My helicopter was 1/4 the price of a new one.  If you can afford a new one, knock yourself out and enjoy.  Personally, the pain of seeing the depreciation the first hour I flew it would make me feel like vomiting.  That would take the fun out of it.  To buy a new one would require that some math worked out commercially.  But that's just me.

Jim

 

From: bikerider1959

Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 6:07 AM

To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group Re: LSA for rent without renters, or renters...

 

 

forgive me for this as I am not a Pilot...yet but I am trying to understand what was said about additional inspections
I thought that all planes were required to have the same inspections even if they are a light sport.
also the maintenance required on an engine/ machine depends on the quality of the maintenance done. Every car I have owned I have driven well past 200,000 miles and a couple of them past 300,000
and my Goldwing is approaching 150,000
I would think that a properly flown and maintained used aircraft would be a far better value than a new one at 4-5 times the cost.

--- In mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com, Helen Woods <Helen_Woods@...> wrote:
>
> Ed, I don't think you've been pricing planes lately. I'd be lucky to
> get $30K if I tried to sell my C172 in today's market and she's full IFR
> with Gramin 530. $20K is very reasonable today for a C150. Insurance
> is also dirst cheap for such. I'm paying in the neighborhood of $600/yr
> for my C172 and parts are a heck of a lot easy to get from Cessna than
> from any LSA manufacturer I've ever dealt with. I'm probably a bigger
> sport pilot proponent than anyone but on the aircraft price argument, an
> older Cessna does beat a new LSA hands down.
>
> Helen
>
> On 4/19/2012 5:07 PM, pwrsport@... wrote:
> >
> >
> > Sounds like an over simplification to me.A 20k 150 can become
> > maintenance nightmare especially in a training environment.I don’t
> > believe I would even get in a 20K 150 flying contraption? Then the
> > additional inspections required, training insurance etc.Not for this
> > guy. Five additional hours for a PP I believe is another
> > oversimplification.The flight time will be way in excess of that based
> > on all national averages to cover all the additional training
> > requirements.Sport pilots can fly anywhere they want in the national
> > airspace, just not at night.Works for me.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Bair
> > Sent: Apr 19, 2012 9:51 AM
> > To: mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group LSA for rent without
> > renters, or renters...
> >
> > My son bought an IFR equipped 150 for under $20k. He plans on
> > getting an instrument rating in it and instructing in it. There
> > is no way he could have paid 80 and up for a plane. ROI, yes,
> > much better.
> > The license itself... I totally recommend to students that if they
> > can get a medical, they are much better off with a PP over a SP if
> > they have any idea of eventually upgrading. Way more options on
> > where and what they can fly. I have had guys come back to me
> > later wanting to upgrade to PP so they can fly at night, or fly a
> > C-172 and haul 4 people, etc. I always tell people that if they
> > are absolutely sure that they will be happy flying within the
> > limits of SP that it is a good way to go, but if they think they
> > might want more in the future, they will have to study again for
> > another written, more dual, and pay for another checkride. There
> > is only 5 more hours of dual time required for a PP anyway.
> > Don’t get me wrong, it is a real license, it just has
> > limitations. If you don’t mind those limitations, then no problem.
> > I really haven’t been following the used LSA market. I’m sure
> > some are out there now. What are they bringing on the used market?
> > Jim
> > *From:* ron_d_hill <mailto:Ron@...>
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 18, 2012 5:18 PM
> > *To:* mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
> > *Subject:* Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group LSA for rent
> > without renters, or renters...
> >
> > Well, one simple thing is a 150 can be bought for 20k and the
> > current crop of LSA's are 80-100k.
> >
> > If I were looking to buy an aircraft and get ROI.... ROI is going
> > to be better on the Cessna 150.
> >
> > Another issue with sport pilot is it is not seen as a 'real'
> > license. The CFI's don't see it that way, the industry does not
> > see it that way, the FAA sorta does not see it that way, and most
> > pilots do not see it that way.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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