I have been looking for life expectancy of the current LSA composites, but I think maybe FAA don't require such testing in LSA planes maybe?
--- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, "Lyle Cox" <LyleCox@...> wrote:
>
> http://www.meyersaircraft.com/Common/Aluminum%20vs%20Composite%20Constructio
> n.html
> interesting article. I'm sure it is a bit biased.
>
> Lyle
>
> From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of dongeneda2000
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:02 AM
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group otherLSAtrainers
>
>
>
>
> And of course the Sport Cruiser is a conventional aluminum construction, FAR
> more labor intensive than say the very similar
> Stingsport, a composite "spray into a mold" that should be far cheaper, but
> it isn't.
>
> --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com> , "Lyle Cox" <LyleCox@> wrote:
> >
> > Yea, but when the Sport Cruiser was first shown at Sun N Fun, it was
> $65,000
> > and that included the ballistic chute and headsets. Now it is $130,000 and
> > I know the Euro/USD ratio is not double what it was then.
> >
> > From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com> ]
> > On Behalf Of dongeneda2000
> > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:56 AM
> > To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group otherLSAtrainers
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I have noticed that as well. Part of the problem is the low value of the
> > dollar I think. When we have to pay $16,000 for a 120hp Jabiru engine,
> when
> > we can buy an entire car with a better engine for less than that,
> something
> > is way wrong. Yet our alternative is to buy a US engine that uses 1920 and
> > 1930 engineering - for even more!
> >
> > --- In Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com> , "Lyle Cox" <LyleCox@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Amazing to me is that the LSA's that are produced in the US, cost the
> same
> > > as the ones produced overseas.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com> ]
> > > On Behalf Of medicbill@
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:15 AM
> > > To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Sport_Aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group otherLSAtrainers
> > >
> > >
> > > Your going to find most LSA's composite or metal are not produced in the
> > US
> > > and probably will not due to the wage factor. Even Cessna is going to
> > > produce the new Skycatcher in China. Most companies argue to keep the
> > price
> > > point down they have to manufacture them in low wage countries.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > In a message dated 10/15/2009 5:12:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> > > airpark@ writes:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I've only recently joined this group. the postings seem much more
> > > professional - than a lot of other sites I routinely visit. Great
> comments
> > > and evalutions - on some possible LSA trainers.
> > >
> > > This group just made me aware of the high costs of repairing composites.
> > > (And the safety factor (or lack of one?) - in crashes. And that not too
> > > many are made here - thus, hurting our economy and job market(s).
> (What's
> > > new!?)
> > >
> > > Does anyone know about the Patriot? Don Zank has four pictures of it on
> > his
> > > website: Zanklites.com. (Dave @ Quad City designed it.) It's metal
> framed
> > > - with fabric covering. The canopy is one piece, hinged on the side.
> (I'm
> > > wondering if making it - with a T-34 like canopy - would be doable.) ?
> > > Down here in SW Florida, you couldn't fly -even taxi it around. Or at
> most
> > > places - in the summer.
> > >
> > > That would also make it easier to get in and out of. And making it look
> > > more like a replica Warbird - might make it into an interesting 'Made in
> > > America!' product. How good a basic trainer it would turn out to be - ?
> > > But, it is nice looking. And Don says it flies well, has good
> > cross-country
> > > speed - and is capable of light aerobatics.
> > >
> > > Another possible 'Made in America' product - could be making Dennis
> > > Whiley's* SPAD into a 'T-SPADXIII. 'T' standing for two place or
> trainer.
> > > All he'd have to do is use his Jenny fuselage - and add the grill and
> > > trailing edge scallops to it. (He could also make his Jenny - into a
> > > Clipped Wing Jenny. That would be two great LSA's! And I believe - as
> > > quick built kits - they could be much less expensive - than most of
> those
> > > overseas composites. (And real 'show stoppers') !
> > >
> > > Just some observations from a 'Senior Citizen'. I'm trying to build a
> > > Children's Aviation Center, a 'Naval Air Estates Airpark, and an
> aviation
> > > themed restaurant - down here in SW Florida. (I'm looking for financing
> of
> > > it.) It will also have some unique features - that will make it an
> > > alternative energy center.
> > >
> > > For information on this 'dream project - (and my educational, military
> and
> > > aviation backgrounds.) visit: www.navalairestates.com
> > > <http://www.navalairestates.com/> , I know I have had to miss some
> ideas.
> > > If any of you can contribute to the project - please do.
> > >
> > > As the economy is stagnant - I now plan to start - with a downsized
> > > Children's Aviation Center - at a local airport in SW Florida. (while
> > > trying to find financing for the larger project) Eventually, I'd like to
> > > build a second such project - back home, in Mid- Michigan.
> > >
> > > Both(all future) Centers will provide aerospace education to local
> > students,
> > > honor women and minorites in aviation, create jobs, serve as alternative
> > > energy labs, offer profit sharing - and add to the local economys! (not
> > > China's and other Nations - ours!)
> > >
> > > And hopefully, each 'center' will have an LSA flying club - as 'part of
> > the
> > > picture'.
> > > There will be a six place 'RAC' - rotating aircraft carrier - as the
> > > 'centerpiece' of each center.
> > >
> > > * And/or Mike Loehle's SPADXIII version. He actually has three war bird
> > > versions.
> > >
> >
>
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