Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group How to Tell if Aircraft is really LSA

Good grief I woke up to a lot of misinformation in my mailbox this
morning! Well here's the skinny folks:

1. If you take a look at the airworthiness certificate of an LSA it is
NOT certificated as an LSA. It will be certificated as STANDARD,
EXPERIMENTAL, or SPECIAL.

2. Additionally, if you read the actual definition of an LSA from the
FARs (I sent this around last night) there is NOTHING in there about
changing certificate categories, only changing parameters such as weight
or speed that would take the plane beyond he definition of an LSA

3. For example, what you can't do is get an STC for a gross weight
increase beyond 1320 (as is the case on many Champs) and then undo it to
make it an LSA again.

4. No. An STC or 337 most certainly does not make a plane an
experimental. If it did, 99% of the planes on any given ramp would be
experimental. (STCs and 337s are a way of life for a certificated
airplane owner. I have a 3 inch binder contain mine for my 1965
standard category Cessna.)

5. No. An STC has nothing to do with the manufacturer in most cases.
Every wonder why why a set of retrofited Cessna air vents from Sporty's
costs $700? Because a private company went through the FAA certification
processs to receive the STC for them. An STC is extremly expensive to
get because of the FAA testing and paperwork required. That's part of
the reason that SLSAs do not use STCs but use LOAs from the manufacturer
instead. Dealing with the FAA to get an STC is expensive. Your local
FSDO controls the alternative the 337 and can be problematic.

6. Aercoupe rudder pedals are either an STC or 337 deal and certainly
do not make the plane either illegal or experimental when installed by
and A&P and accompanied by the proper paperwork.

Helen

Richard Williams wrote:
>
>
> Bob,
>
> Normally, I do not disagree with your statements, so perhaps there is
> some mis-understanding here.
>
> The definition of a LSA, amongst other things, say that the plane can
> not ever have been certificated in any other catagory.
>
> True, a SP pilot can fly a plane that meets the limitations of a LSA,
> However, that does not make that plane a LSA.
>
>
> R. Williams
>
>
>
> *---------- Original Message -----------*
> From: Bob Comperini <bob@fly-ul.com>
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:32:05 -0700
> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group How to Tell if Aircraft
> is really LSA
>
> >
> >
> > On 02:10 PM 10/10/2009, Richard Williams wrote:
> >
> > >Dongen,
> > >
> > >NO airplane that has been certificated as 'standard' catagory (or
> similar) can ever be a LSA.
> >
> > Whoah! not true at all. there are several standard category aircraft
> that are LSAs, and can be flown by a Sport Pilot
> >
> > --
> > Bob Comperini
> > e-mail: bob@fly-ul.com <mailto:bob%40fly-ul.com>
> > WWW: http://www.fly-ul.com <http://www.fly-ul.com/>
> >
> >
> *------- End of Original Message -------*
>
>
>

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