Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group How to Tell if Aircraft is really LSA

I'll call her what ever you like. :-)

Helen

Lyle Cox wrote:
> True..FAR's do trump...but please..do NOT call my cub a Light Sport
> Aircraft....it'll cry.
>
> Lyle Cox
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Helen Woods
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 3:59 PM
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group How to Tell if Aircraft is
> really LSA
>
> Actually Bob is correct. (I'm afraid the FARs trump Wikipedia.) -Helen
>
> Title 14: Aeronautics and Space
> PART 1—DEFINITIONS AND ABBREVIATIONS
> § 1.1 General definitions.
>
> Light-sport aircraft means an aircraft, other than a helicopter or
> powered-lift that, since its original certification, has continued to
> meet the following:
>
> (1) A maximum takeoff weight of not more than—
>
> (i) 1,320 pounds (600 kilograms) for aircraft not intended for operation
> on water; or
>
> (ii) 1,430 pounds (650 kilograms) for an aircraft intended for operation
> on water.
>
> (2) A maximum airspeed in level flight with maximum continuous power
> (VH) of not more than 120 knots CAS under standard atmospheric
> conditions at sea level.
>
> (3) A maximum never-exceed speed (VNE) of not more than 120 knots CAS
> for a glider.
>
> (4) A maximum stalling speed or minimum steady flight speed without the
> use of lift-enhancing devices (VS1) of not more than 45 knots CAS at the
> aircraft's maximum certificated takeoff weight and most critical center
> of gravity.
>
> (5) A maximum seating capacity of no more than two persons, including
> the pilot.
>
> (6) A single, reciprocating engine, if powered.
>
> (7) A fixed or ground-adjustable propeller if a powered aircraft other
> than a powered glider.
>
> (8) A fixed or autofeathering propeller system if a powered glider.
>
> (9) A fixed-pitch, semi-rigid, teetering, two-blade rotor system, if a
> gyroplane.
>
> (10) A nonpressurized cabin, if equipped with a cabin.
>
> (11) Fixed landing gear, except for an aircraft intended for operation
> on water or a glider.
>
> (12) Fixed or retractable landing gear, or a hull, for an aircraft
> intended for operation on water.
>
> (13) Fixed or retractable landing gear for a glider.
>
>
>
>
>
> Lyle Cox wrote:
>
>> Well…no..he is correct. Take for example the Ercoupe 415C, which is a
>> part 23 certifcated aircraft. However, the 415C qualifies to be flown
>> by a Sport Pilot, but that does not make it a Light Sport Aircraft.
>>
>> "In addition to aircraft specifically designed to meet the LSA
>> requirements, certain certificated aircraft, such as the original
>> Piper Cub <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_Cub>, happen to fall
>> within the definition of a light-sport aircraft and can be operated by
>> individuals holding FAA Sport Pilot certificates. The aircraft can not
>> be re-certificated as LSA, however: although Sport Pilots may operate
>> conventionally certificated aircraft that fall within the definition
>> of an LSA, the aircraft themselves continue to be certificated in
>> their original categories."
>> …..Wikipedia….http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-sport_aircraft
>>
>> The difference is, a part 23 certificated aircraft "complies" with the
>> definition of light sport aircraft, but it is still a Part 23
>> certificated aircraft, NOT a "Light Sport Aircraft" which is certified
>> by ASTM standards.
>>
>> Lyle Cox
>>
>> Fun Aero Sports Logo
>>
>> Fun Aero Sports, LLC
>>
>> 3344 Long Creek Drive
>>
>> Fort Collins, CO 80528
>>
>> 970-631-3983
>>
>> www.funaerosports.com
>>
>> *From:* Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Bob Comperini
>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 10, 2009 3:32 PM
>> *To:* Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group How to Tell if
>> Aircraft is really LSA
>>
>> On 02:10 PM 10/10/2009, Richard Williams wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Dongen,
>>>
>>> NO airplane that has been certificated as 'standard' catagory (or
>>>
>> similar) can ever be a LSA.
>>
>> Whoah! not true at all. there are several standard category aircraft
>> that are LSAs, and can be flown by a Sport Pilot
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comperini
>> e-mail: bob@fly-ul.com <mailto:bob%40fly-ul.com>
>> WWW: http://www.fly-ul.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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