RE: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group How to Tell if Aircraft is really LSA

True..FAR's do trump...but please..do NOT call my cub a Light Sport
Aircraft....it'll cry.

Lyle Cox

Fun Aero Sports, LLC
3344 Long Creek Drive
Fort Collins, CO 80528

970-631-3983
www.funaerosports.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Helen Woods
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 3:59 PM
To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group How to Tell if Aircraft is
really LSA

Actually Bob is correct. (I'm afraid the FARs trump Wikipedia.) -Helen

Title 14: Aeronautics and Space
PART 1—DEFINITIONS AND ABBREVIATIONS
§ 1.1 General definitions.

Light-sport aircraft means an aircraft, other than a helicopter or
powered-lift that, since its original certification, has continued to
meet the following:

(1) A maximum takeoff weight of not more than—

(i) 1,320 pounds (600 kilograms) for aircraft not intended for operation
on water; or

(ii) 1,430 pounds (650 kilograms) for an aircraft intended for operation
on water.

(2) A maximum airspeed in level flight with maximum continuous power
(VH) of not more than 120 knots CAS under standard atmospheric
conditions at sea level.

(3) A maximum never-exceed speed (VNE) of not more than 120 knots CAS
for a glider.

(4) A maximum stalling speed or minimum steady flight speed without the
use of lift-enhancing devices (VS1) of not more than 45 knots CAS at the
aircraft's maximum certificated takeoff weight and most critical center
of gravity.

(5) A maximum seating capacity of no more than two persons, including
the pilot.

(6) A single, reciprocating engine, if powered.

(7) A fixed or ground-adjustable propeller if a powered aircraft other
than a powered glider.

(8) A fixed or autofeathering propeller system if a powered glider.

(9) A fixed-pitch, semi-rigid, teetering, two-blade rotor system, if a
gyroplane.

(10) A nonpressurized cabin, if equipped with a cabin.

(11) Fixed landing gear, except for an aircraft intended for operation
on water or a glider.

(12) Fixed or retractable landing gear, or a hull, for an aircraft
intended for operation on water.

(13) Fixed or retractable landing gear for a glider.

Lyle Cox wrote:
>
>
> Well…no..he is correct. Take for example the Ercoupe 415C, which is a
> part 23 certifcated aircraft. However, the 415C qualifies to be flown
> by a Sport Pilot, but that does not make it a Light Sport Aircraft.
>
> "In addition to aircraft specifically designed to meet the LSA
> requirements, certain certificated aircraft, such as the original
> Piper Cub <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_Cub>, happen to fall
> within the definition of a light-sport aircraft and can be operated by
> individuals holding FAA Sport Pilot certificates. The aircraft can not
> be re-certificated as LSA, however: although Sport Pilots may operate
> conventionally certificated aircraft that fall within the definition
> of an LSA, the aircraft themselves continue to be certificated in
> their original categories."
> …..Wikipedia….http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-sport_aircraft
>
> The difference is, a part 23 certificated aircraft "complies" with the
> definition of light sport aircraft, but it is still a Part 23
> certificated aircraft, NOT a "Light Sport Aircraft" which is certified
> by ASTM standards.
>
> Lyle Cox
>
> Fun Aero Sports Logo
>
> Fun Aero Sports, LLC
>
> 3344 Long Creek Drive
>
> Fort Collins, CO 80528
>
> 970-631-3983
>
> www.funaerosports.com
>
> *From:* Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Bob Comperini
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 10, 2009 3:32 PM
> *To:* Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group How to Tell if
> Aircraft is really LSA
>
> On 02:10 PM 10/10/2009, Richard Williams wrote:
>
> >Dongen,
> >
> >NO airplane that has been certificated as 'standard' catagory (or
> similar) can ever be a LSA.
>
> Whoah! not true at all. there are several standard category aircraft
> that are LSAs, and can be flown by a Sport Pilot
>
> --
> Bob Comperini
> e-mail: bob@fly-ul.com <mailto:bob%40fly-ul.com>
> WWW: http://www.fly-ul.com
>
>
>
>

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